GW2: Ascalonian Catacombs – Story Mode Solo at Lvl 30 – Story Time

Well, that didn’t take long at all, did it?

One day, I’m musing to myself about checking out the Ascalonian Catacombs (AC) dungeon on my lvl 80 main with the Janthir spear; the next I’m deciding to hurl myself in there with an actual lvl 30 character.

The long and short of it is that a Reddit thread by a new player prompted me to poke my head in there. The newbie was asking about easy dungeons to learn as a small new player group, and describing how his testing duo got absolutely pwned by the third enemy in there, “Ascalonian Monk.”

Third? Ascalonian Monk? Huh. I don’t remember this at all. So I reminded myself that I’d been intending to take my spear-wielding self through it, and did so. Turns out the poor fellow is seemingly talking about an Elite Ascalonian Monk, which pops out of the coffins before the first mini-boss Gate Guardian Napa, and is basically a trash mob.

Moral of the story: If your build isn’t up to killing elite mobs, don’t think of low manning the dungeons quite yet. :)

Whoops. No surprise really. Leveling folks generally wear whatever rubbish that drops into their inventory that sounds nice, and even if it’s nice gear, they tend to level fast and before they know it, they’re wearing gear 10+ levels below them that is going to get further downscaled to a pathetic amount when they walk into somewhere lower level than them.

So one of the first pieces of advice given to the OP on the reddit thread was “wear level-appropriate gear.”

Ah, the woes of generic advice. Fortunately, the OP was smart enough to ask what exactly that meant. Should he be wearing lvl 32 gear as a lvl 60, for the lvl 30 catacombs? Or just gear as good as possible for his level?

Answer: The latter.

Since I used to dabble with twinking out my low level alts years ago, I couldn’t resist sharing specifics that I’d experimented with. Basically, stack as MUCH Power as you can find on everything, so that your strike damage is really high.

Higher than what the devs would have assumed an average low-levelled player would be wearing with patchwork gear, so that you’re hitting mobs with health scaled for an average player with much higher damage than normal.

Obviously, ensure the weapon you’re using is a weapon suited for Power / strike damage. Which technically speaking, has good coefficients that scale well with Power, and in practice, generally means weapons with skills that do not apply a lot of accompanying conditions, which are for condi builds.

See, this is what a lvl 80 guardian scales down to in AC Story mode.

Effective level: 32. Power 612.

The thing is, a lvl 80 comes with all traits and skills unlocked, not to mention expansion bonuses like having an elite specialization (dragonhunter in this case, from Heart of Thorns), and being able to wield any weapon of the elite specs (Secrets of the Obscure) and spear (Janthir Wilds.)

In combat, just swinging around my greatsword, the traits of my build can stack up to 6 might stacks on an elite enemy before it dies, leaving me at Power 702 and a crit chance that jumps up to more than 50% critical. That’s a lot of potential damage.

Needless to say, AC story wasn’t a problem. I messed around with Explorable Path 3 and got through eventually, with significant problem-solving and pauses; got a bugged Detha in Path 2 and sulked; tried Path 1 and got utterly bamboozled by the race to kill graveling burrows before Hodgkins died (problems for another day and maybe another class.)

Then I got antsy.

There were a surprising number of new players hanging around the AC entrance for a 12 year old game. Most were sensibly grouping up or gathering a few friends to give it a go. I kinda wished them well and hoped they had fun. It’s sorta hard to join as a veteran and with so much knowledge and stats that you would trivalize the place for them.

But is it really possible to use an actual lvl 30 character to solo AC story mode?

Inquiring minds want to know. Or at least, mine does, because it’s the sort to get really restless at unanswered questions.

Let’s say you are the sort of player who really craves a tough challenge, who likes Dark Souls-style combat where you have to bang your head on an encounter several times until you work out how to deal with it, and leveling in GW2 has been putting you to sleep autoattacking mobs with no threat whatsoever…

Obviously, you would need to prep for this, to replace the random outgoing damage coming from four other randomly equipped players and displacement of incoming damage onto four other extra punching bags.

I had a spare character slot, so I used a lvl 30 experience scroll to boost a guardian to lvl 30.

No real specific reason beyond just being the most familiar with the class and wanting to compare it against my lvl 80, though in hindsight it does have a number of blocks and decent self-healing.

After a whole bunch of clicking through the level ups, it was TP time.

(Ignore the 15 slot linen bags, I gotta have my storage mules make themselves useful.)

One thing I immediately learned with this experiment when I set the TP filters for anything green masterwork, within lvl 25-30, with Power on it. There’s not a lot of options or choices.

Honestly, the better stuff I wanted was at lvl 32. If any real low level players are reading this and considering it, my best suggestion is to get to lvl 32 and buy that stuff. (If you’re higher level than that, then get the closest to your level for the most Power you can find.)

Since I had set a hard limit of lvl 30 for myself, I settled for the lvl 26 versions. Greatsword, yes. Scepter/focus as the best (only, really) ranged weapon for core builds, mostly taking focus for the extra blocks for comfort. Standard set of armor with Power and Precision stats.

Trinkets. Do NOT forget trinkets. They are a source of much stats. The Strong Rings were the most costly item, being that there aren’t that many options in that level range. (There are probably cheaper blue items, but I was okay with 25 silver a pop for this experiment.)

Imo, the easiest way for a low level player to earn enough gold to afford this is to explore Gendarran Fields, Timberline Falls, Iron Marches enough to get waypoints in the map, and then pop in on the Leyline Anomaly (using /wiki event timers to find out when and where they’re spawning.) Look out for the icon on the minimap, click the nearest waypoint, use swiftness to dash to the location asap – 1 minute to do so – and then get a few hits in on LLA for a mystic coin. Selling it nets 1.8g at current prices, give or take 20 silver.

There were no masterwork earrings for a lvl 30 (I think they were all in the 35s *sulks*) so I swapped filter over to blue Fine and bought two crafted ones. I mean, I could have saved a few coin here and there by actually crafting it myself, but seriously, if one is not a new player, one does not blink an eye at a few silver here and there.

And now, let the twinking begin.

The cheapest way to power boost a low level with stats, I’ve found, is to just pick any assorted minor runes with +10 Power and slot one each. Voila, +60 Power in total. That’s like a food buff right there already.

At higher levels if one can slot major runes, one can do the same with +15 Power. But, lvl 30. *grrr*

Sigils were a bit harder to choose from, but I finally settled on a bloodlust sigil for power stacks, sigil of strength for bonus might, and a sigil of the night because I think AC dungeons count as night time. (Don’t quote me on that.)

It ultimately didn’t really feel like it mattered that much. In hindsight, I would have put the bloodlust sigil on my greatsword, because I rarely made enough kills with the scepter to stack bloodlust before I downed and lost all of them. I was wandering around with 0-4 stacks most of the time and did fine.

Lastly, don’t forget any empty upgrade slots on the trinkets if available. I think the carnelian jewels went into the rings. There were green variants with Power/Precision available but I was feeling spendthrift so I went for the yellows.

I also couldn’t find any foods on the TP with +Power that a lvl 30 could eat… which apparently is a failure of my TP filters or my search-fu. An actual look at the GW2 Food section on the wiki shows Pepper Steak as having +30 power.

Anyhow, I bought a few other experimental foods. A little extra Power from the sharpening stone doesn’t hurt either, but all my screenshots have no food or utility buffs on, so I might have forgotten to use them entirely.

Total expenditure: 1 gold, 44 silver (without food and utilities, and splurging on green rings and yellow jewels).

With gear settled, it was time for skills and traits.

Here, I fucked up. The boosted lvl 30 had like 60 hero points, with no extra hero points from exploring any maps. So I was faced with distributing a limited temporarily-scarce resource.

I was aiming to get as close to my lvl 80 build as possible, so I started distributing points for spirit weapon sword, bane signet for moar power, slipped in litany of wrath for the heck of it (not a good idea, it turns out) and started waffling on which three traitlines might be decent on partial traits selected. Zeal is generally the Power/Greatsword line, Radiance has precision and stuff, Virtues boosts the virtues, Valor also sounded nice-ish for a bit more sustain/survivability…

Imagine my utter chagrin when I flipped over the select the traits and saw this:

WHAT? You can only select ONE traitline at lvl 30? The other two are LOCKED until lvl 45 and 70ish?

If I had only known… then I would have thrown everything into Zeal and called it a day.

So umm.. I inadvertently simulated an utter mess of trait and skill selection that a low level player would have done also?

Bottom line, I ended up with a spirit sword and bane signet as the only two things I really wanted. At least I got the greatsword trait. I took signet of wrath because there wasn’t much else to take. Zero elite.

(I put a charr warband there later, but resisted the urge to use for purity purposes – what if one is not playing a charr – though there were definitely times I could have used a few extra bodies to distract, and paid the price for it in deaths.)

Final stats walking into the dungeon… 648 Power. Not too shabby.


First room. First test of the ‘build’ or rather the gear, more like.

The elite mobs went down in satisfactory short order. Fairly close to the lvl 80.

First mini-boss, Gate Guardian Napa. He ended up not really easy to facetank on a lvl 30, so I weapon swapped to ranged to kite him around once all my healing stuff was on cooldown and basically just dealt with him at range. Only going in when he was low enough to burst down with my greatsword. Fairly uneventful.

There was a lot of using line-of-sight to pull the trash mobs. Ascalonian Rangers are really obnoxious with their knockbacks.

I know we like to say, oh, use a stun break, but as I found out, at lvl 30, you may not have the hero points to unlock a stun break! Yet another victim of the way someone revamped the trait lines and the way we unlock of skills oh so long ago, I guess.

Anyway, LOS took care of them.

A ranged option is always handy for dealing with the flame traps on the walls.

Too scary? Try to pull them one-by-one.

Death #1: Got compacent and stunned by an Elite Ascalonian Warrior. Thanks, trash mob. Thanks for not helping, Rytlock.

Revenge was had in short order, after the run of shame back to the corridor.

Death #2 – Somewhat overwhelmed by the amount of melee damage this Ascalonian Captain was outputting. Couldn’t quite output my own melee damage fast enough.

Fortunately, the fellow was still tangled up in combat fighting NPCs during my run back, so he didn’t heal up. Just bursted him (or her?) the rest of the way without needing to spend too long working out his attacks and what not.

Yet another Ascalonian Captain and 15 Ghosts to kill, you say?

Yes, more pulling is called for. No one is running headlong into 15 ghosts.

Almost Death #3 – 12 ghosts down. Hit by obnoxious Ascalonian Ranger and knocked back down the stairs. Caught by the actual captain boss mid-stun. At least Garm is trying.

Annoying ranger… muuust die…

If you don’t give up and can quickly target, sometimes downstate miracles happen.

Cleared all 15 of the small ghosts. Running the fuck away from the captain, trying to reset cooldowns and heal up.

Hang on, the side bar says Captain, his actual name is Ascalonian Lieutenant…

Actual Death #3: Just kill me. The C in ArenaNet stands for Consistency.

I kid, I kid, I think I just let him get too close or took too much risks trying to melee him.

Second round – stay at range, respect the man’s hammer, no problems.

Death #4: Walked up to trigger Master Nente, fully focused on figuring out if I should range him or run up the far beam to melee him… ganked by three suddenly spawning Ascalonian rangers and warrior who knocked me off the wall, plus a stun for good measure.

Death #5: Took a wrong turn left into an uncleared corridor while running back to Nente. Ganked by a duo of unexpected Ascalonian Mesmers.

Now on the correct path, looking over at them. Should I go over and deal with ’em? Nahhh..

This, my friends, is known as LOS revenge.

After all that build up, Nente himself was quite uneventful.

I seem to recall once upon a time that he was built to have some kind of reaction when you hurled boulders at him, but these days, with the green defiance bar screwing things up, he has become one of those ‘just ignore mechanics’ kind of affairs.

If you were in a group and/or melee, he can be accessed via the little beam running up to his platform. He could probably be defiance bar broken and bursted to death.

Solo, I just ranged him when he was at range, moving away from his ranged attack area. When he popped in melee range, just kite and kill the wolf first if low-ish damage like my lvl 30, or hop into melee range also and burn down everything AoE style if higher in damage.

Shades of GW1 flashbacks. Oh look, so many red dots clumped together…

Solution? Wait for patrol. Pull patrol. LOS.

Clean.

I mean, yes, the PUG strategy is usually just put on swiftness and rush past all the trash mobs. But I’m solo, I can do what I want and I like clearing trash mobs. Besides, lvl 30, no swiftness. I better keep the corridors clear in case I need to walk back after a death. Lol.

Death #6: See what I mean? I don’t even remember what happened. Trying to get to Kasha Blackblood. Just got shot in the back by some randomly spawning-in ghost. Turned around and then some patroling warriors decided to join in.

Could do with more than moral encouragement, Garm.

Kasha herself, fairly uneventful. Her big schtick is spawning condition circles. Condition cleanse would have been nice… if I had any hero points for such skills. Guardians have F2 virtue of resolve, so at least that was one emergency cleanse baked-in.

So it was just dive in and out of melee and range as needed, stepping out of circular goo indicated by really faint red lines. That’s old GW2, for you. The post expansion circle mechanics are more clearly indicated.

I was all set to do the ‘proper’ solo tactic of using a boulder on a trap door to close the doors and separate Rassar and Valena properly on other sides of the door.

After all, at lvl 80, I tended to just ignore the whole mechanic of them getting stronger when they were together and just blow through them with obscene dragonhunter damage.

But mid-pull, Ralena obligingly followed me to the first set of doors and before I could even get her to the second set of doors to then close it on her, I noticed Vassar wasn’t even following her to the first set.

So I just started ranging her down from where I was, mid-corridor.

What was even funnier, he lost aggro some time in between, and then wandered off even further back to his spawn point.

…It’s been 12 years, Ralena. He may not love you anymore.

So yea, uneventful. Piece of cake.

And then there was one.

Not much to say about Adelbern except he’s one of those mobs with different behavior in melee and at range.

He has a bunch of slashy sword attacks in melee, so standard melee tactics of flanking and rear hitting are good.

If you range him, then he starts summoning Foefire, which is also a semi-manageable tactic, just as long as you stay out of the blue meteor shower areas.

Death #7: Got too excited studying his different attack animations and not enough killing. Result: Stepped into blue meteor shower area.

He’s another one of those mobs that get tangled up by NPCs and doesn’t regenerate his health when you respawn. And there’s like a waypoint a few feet from him. So yeah, forgiving enough.

There was a bonus chest that gave 50 silver, by the by. Once per day per account, says the wiki. So it’s not as miserable as it looks. Nothing that’ll make you rich, but okay for the experience.

(A bit more gold is tangled up in the Dungeon Frequenter achievements – 8 dungeons, 5 gold on completion.)

Ironically, between all the adventure guide unlocks and dungeon experience, the lvl 30 character is now lvl 32 after one run through AC story. So ummm, we can wear lvl 32 gear now?

Bah.

Anyway… I managed to satisfy my curiosity on the question: Can a lvl 30 character solo Ascalonian Catacombs Story Mode?

Yep! Sure can!

Expect deaths and a bit of Dark Souls adventure while problem-solving in the space. Prep well. Get a ranged and melee weapon for more combat options. Get good stats. Fuck up your traits a little less than I did, ideally. Remember to move and kite and line-of-sight as needed.

Have fun.

GW2: Light Up The Darkness

The more things change...

5 years (shy of 1 week) to the date, I defeated Liadri the Concealing Darkness for the first time.

2018liadri2

(Still the same mini, but I might have consumed a teensy bit of bloodstone dust in the interim…)

There are orange circles now in the arena; and the ceiling dome has gone.

The power creep is tangible – where I used to be in exotic berserker gear and called it a day, ascended zerker is now my standard baseline; the burst damage I can output as a raid-built dragonhunter who knows how to use food and utility now is likely 3 to 4 times higher than whatever I was using back then.

I’d like to think that my ability to analyze and solve for a GW2 combat situation has gotten a hair more refined. Am I too slow? Is it because I am always crippled? What condi cleanse do I have for that? Unsoweiter.

I actually know that I can count off and dodge for an invulnerability frame now (even if the execution still requires practice to refine), and can stand relatively unfazed in a sea of orange ready to dodge at the proper timing for my latency, so that the invulnerability kicks in as the shadow orbs shower down.

Even the stress of gearing for a specific encounter has been muted somewhat, by owning both a legendary light and heavy armor set, and not a few ascended pieces across 25 or so alts.

Not completely gone, because inventory management is still hell, but if I want to waste an hour or two to rummage around and/or spend a few currencies here and there, I can probably put together something if I’m desperate enough.

But between my usually played characters and classes, there’s probably something that will work already.

We cruised through the first three tiers in a day, killing two birds with one stone by taking the On Fire gambit and finishing both Gauntlet Contender (defeat 12 bosses) and Gauntlet Favorite (defeat 12 bosses with one gambit) achievements at the same time.

My hoarding habit came in handy, because I found nearly two stacks of really old Queen’s Gauntlet tickets in the bank – all 250 + 231 of them ready for the using. I threw the full stack into the newfangled shared inventory slot to make my life easier.

Oh, there were a few speedbumps here and there. I’d forget how a particular boss worked (thanks, Suriel!) and experiment a little here and Google for an old guide there.

I’d realize my dragonhunter wasn’t going to be the best for a particular achievement (kill one Subject 7 ooze without touching the other oozes? When I pretty much do AoE in all directions? Yea, not happening) and swap to another character. Something I also vaguely remember doing in the mists of time. Usually on the necro. Same old, same old, except more powerful.

Revisiting basic 3-orb Liadri took another day, mostly because I wanted to plan ahead a little, plotting out various build options after reviewing some old guides and videos.

It was surprisingly painless on the whole, maybe taking some 8 tickets or thereabouts to recall the old patterns of where to stand (thank goodness I blogged about it). It was a lot easier to deal with the shadowfall with the orange circles and overall calmer confidence in my capability to handle it (plus willingness to eat +dodge food.)

And once three orbs were thrown into Liadri’s face, dragonhunter spike damage with spear, trap, scepter and torch is almost unfair.

Turai Ossa took another couple of days. His fight patently favors the fast and mobile tanky/healing build types with preferably lots of blocks/evades/invulns as the goal is to avoid or withstand his ludicrously hard hitting stunning attacks in some way until he divests himself of first his shield, and then his sword… by flinging them at you in extremely painful fashion. After which, you must break his bar with crowd control and then proceed to damage and defeat him.

I own practically zero tanky/healing builds, nor am I terribly practiced with fast and mobile classes. A mirage is apparently near perfect to deal with him, and I don’t even know how to play base mesmer well, let alone chronomancers or mirages. *shudders*

There was a fair bit of build experimentation, courtesy of legendary armor and a bit of scheming. I gave it a shot with a tanky/healing block-laden guardian – except I’m not really practiced with that aspect of the class, and I rather did not realize at the beginning that Turai was supposed to be broken after he flings his shield and sword.

I tried a healing/barriering scourge, with not that much success as well – others succeeded by being very adept at necromancer mobility skills, but I was essentially flailing around with unfamiliar non-muscle-memory skill sequences.

Ultimately, what worked for me was going back to a familiar class – warrior. I put a bit of Soldier gear on, switched my traits based on watching a video of someone who did it with a warrior, and while watching said video, it -finally- clicked that I needed to break Turai before he was open to being damaged.

A few more trial-and-error attempts later, learning a bit more at each go, Turai was defeated (by a hair, I was kinda downed at the last, but we’ll take it. Fear the warrior Rock.) Kingslayer get.

And now we were back to that old bugaboo – 8 orb Liadri.

In 2013, my framerate was 12, on a good day. Maybe dropping to 6, if the Boss Blitz zerg went under me. I surrendered.

In 2014, my system apparently could manage 20+, but I wasn’t mentally ready for it then.

“Maybe next year,” I said, but next year never came. No festival in 2015. Or 2016. Or 2017.

It’s 2018, and the Queen’s Gauntlet is finally back.

My upgraded graphics card and system manages 50 FPS. (My ping has increased to 280ms -with- a VPN, but hey, you can’t win ’em all.)

It was time.

30+ tickets were thrown into the meat grinder, along with the first build I’d determined I’d give a go. A tanky necromancer with parasitic contagion and blood magic, with spectral grasp pull and spectral walk for speed, maybe some minions to distract Liadri, a shroud bar for extra health reservoir.

It wasn’t horrible. I’d get about 4-5 orbs in before things started to fall apart.

Picking up orbs felt really slow with my ping, while I was locked in combat courtesy of the minions and while the standard sigil of geomancy on my weapons kept trying to proc unnecessarily each pickup.

I just could not figure out how to use spectral grasp in a reliable fashion to pull 2-3 minions into the light – the whole reason for the pull to begin with. It’d pull one if I was lucky, leaving the rest nearby to contend with, while locked in a pickup animation. If unlucky, I might pull all three into me, with only one turning into a light orb and the other two inches away from blowing me up.

I ended up swapping it for the blinding well, which was somewhat helpful, in that I could put it down, blinding the visions as they popped and cleared the arena to make life easier. And somewhat not helpful, in that there were then less visions that could be used as light orbs.

The problem I encountered was that the necromancer was still somewhat slow, especially when crippled, with limited escapes besides two dodges.

In theory, I could clear the crippled condition; in practice, there were so many things on my mind, including not dying, trying to position self for visions to turn into light orbs, trying to pick up orbs without dying, trying to remember just how many damn orbs I’d thrown, trying to remember to renew conditions on everything in order for parasitic contagion to kick in and help prevent me from dying, while running around at half health and almost dying, that I’d run around with crippled and THEN die to some mistake or another.

All that chill and crippled on the visions were probably also not helping the speed at which they were approaching the light pools to be converted into light orbs.

Adding a little salt to the wound, my latency meant that the visions’ movement could get a little de-synced and unpredictable. They’d look to be a feet away, but then suddenly, you’d be downed and booted out of the arena. (In one memorable instance, I was watching a vision walk straight on at me into a light patch, except it managed to pop and kill me first before hitting the light patch. What the-? I don’t even…)

To make things laughable, nearer the end part of the 30-something spammed tickets, I was getting kicked out of the arena with “Event Success” and no achievement.

Apparently, as I started losing track of orb throwing and just trying my darnest to survive, the necromancer’s conditions while autoattacking were whittling down Liadri’s health faster than I could hurl 8 orbs safely at her. (With goodness knows how many missed opportunities I just had to walk away from, because I’d die if I tried to pick up that orb at that point in time.)

With another 100 more goes at it, I might have made it work, but it wasn’t quite working out as I’d hoped… so I went to plan B earlier than intended.

What I needed was something that would clear conditions fairly automatically, have more than two dodges, and keep the visions controlled enough to be harmless while I walked in and out to pick up the light orb with not the greatest latency.

Without any experience worth speaking of on a mesmer (ie. clones, mirage evades and pulls), that meant a daredevil.

P/D, apparently, was the way to go, said one 8 orb Liadri video.

Lovely.

Of course, it’s the ONE armor weight I don’t yet have legendary armor for. (It’s so fugly.)

The video I watched said berserker was fine. Another Reddit thread I read said they managed it in marauder. I wasn’t quite sure because I’m really pretty bad on a thief too – just a tide more experienced on it than a mesmer.

P/D, if you look at the pistol, also strikes me more as a condition damage weapon?

I rummaged around in GW2efficiency to look at my available medium armor sets on all my characters – no marauder unless I wanted to buy one wholesale with magnetite shards, plenty of berserker…. oh wait, what’s this? A Trailblazer set?

Toughness, Condition Damage, Expertise, Vitality.

I’d been using the set as part of a WvW roaming pistol thief experiment once upon an age, before repurposing the thief as a berserker deadeye for more lethality.

This seemed pretty good to try. Not much tankier a thief could get while still doing -some- damage. I could practice with this for safety and getting the hang of the build, and if I ended up running out of time to kill Liadri, then I’d switch in pieces of berserker or viper.

I started with the traits and skills as shown in the video, decided that I wasn’t really putting the precision signet to any real use after a few attempts, and swapped it to scorpion wire for a pull.

Man, P/D daredevil felt so good. Three dodges. One pull. Cloak-and-dagger on a vision to stealth for four seconds – juuust enough time to run in and snatch a light orb from under the visions’ noses, if I didn’t screw up. One teleport when alive, one teleport when downed. Vigor and decent amount of healing. Some thieves’ guild allies every now and then to keep Liadri tangled up while you busied yourself hurling light orbs at her.

The one problem? I was still losing track of just how many orbs I’d thrown.

3 orbs had an obvious counter and tell – there’s a buff for each and she starts moving at you after three. Each orb after that apparently adds a stack of vulnerability. So in theory, you want 5 vulnerability stacks, then you kill her.

In practice, goodness knows how many other skills add vulnerability, you’re detargeting her every now and then to deal with the cosmic rifts or stealthing off visions, and you’re still trying not to die from everything that could kill you in the arena. (Even if a daredevil has a lot of tools to manage this, it still needs managing.)

So it actually came as a surprise amidst all the dodging and throwing and stealthing and throwing and dodging some more, when I got chucked out of the arena and a 32,500 AP chest opened up in my face.

Eh? Wha? Huh?

20188orbchievo

Oh.

2018lightupdarkness

OHHHH.

It’s really rare in a game that I feel strongly about anything – even a Dhuum kill left me feeling mostly tired/relieved/”Ok, that’s done” rather than triumphant – but the abiding sense of satisfaction that washed over me is hard to put into words.

Five years.

I couldn’t do it then. Between my lack of tools and lack of requisite knowledge.

And now it’s done.

It feels… good.

Completionism sated. Achievement get.

Apparently, between all the pistol autoattacks layering conditions on her and the thieves I’d been chucking at Liadri, they took care of the killing portion and I’d managed to hurl 8 orbs without even realizing that I could be defeating her already.

That was pretty good yet unintentional timing on the AP chest though. It was an extra rewarding surprise.

Stress over, that albatross hanging around my neck is gone. A bit more cleanup on some leftover achievements, then maybe I’ll mess around with the other new champions for fun in the leftover festival time.

Random Thought About Solo Play and “Aloneness”

Assuming no limitations or restrictions on time, schedules, desired rewards, whatever:

1) Would you prefer to play an MMO mostly solo on your own? Or would it feel more enjoyable with friends/company?

2) Are you comfortable eating out at a restaurant alone? Or would it feel somewhat weird or less enjoyable?

Just a completely random thought out of nowhere.

I’m wondering if there’s any correlation between the two activities, or no.

Blaugust Day 3: A Great Many Trove Firsts

It’s amazing how much you get done after writing things down.

Here’s what happened in Trove in two days:

  • Tried a Shadow Arena (Uber 2) for the first time, solo, and won (albeit with some fancy-footwork tactics)
  • Bought an Elysian Flask from the store using cubits (zero real money spent so far)
  • Leveled a Tomb Raiser class to lvl 10 and thoroughly enjoyed it
  • Gained Mastery Level 20 and got my first set of free neophyte wings
  • Leveled ringcrafting to 250
  • Obtained 3500 cubits (just 500 shy of a store-bought raptor mount, one more day should do it)
  • Fished approximately a hundred times
  • Decided I could spare 600 glim to buy the cheapest and lowliest (but functional) boat to tide me over while collecting more resources for the nicer models
  • Found a Treasure Isles merchant selling buddybot soultraps and bought a few
  • Found a Treasure Isles merchant selling cat soultraps and bought a few (popping a rare Prowling Shadow ally on the 5th try! And then popping another while buying a few more for the hell of it, trying to collect the common rarity allies.)

What’s left on the list is get a mount, gardening, fish a lot more, and then it’s time to find new grindy goals (of which, Trove has plenty, never fear.)

Apparently, as apology for a spate of crashes and extended maintenance downtime (every time this happens in some other game, I remember that ArenaNet’s back end team is fucking amazing for creating a game that almost never goes down and never has regular weekly maintenance,) Trove offered up a free class coin and a bunch of cubits to each player that logged on that weekend as an olive branch.

Works for me.

I leapt at the chance to purchase the newest and most expensive class, the Tomb Raiser, for the wonderful price of free.

I’d been eyeing it for its reputation as a really good soloing class.

It didn’t disappoint when I put it through its early paces.

Left mouse button was a basic magic attack, and right mouse button called up a dinky little bone minion that fought monsters for you.

smallminion

Its passive attracted little deep purple ‘souls’ that orbited the Tomb Raiser. Each was a charge for summoning one of those itty bitty bone minions. Souls are regained over time, or when something dies, creating a snowball effect of an increasing swarm of minions that tilts the battle towards victory.

I had visions of the City of Heroes’ mastermind all over again, and it’s done even better in Trove, as the minions can do a respectable amount of damage, along with ‘tank’ by holding aggro / body blocking.

tombraiserskills

Skill 1 converted the basic attack into an AoE effect, and gives you 90% damage resistance, allowing the Tomb Raiser to dive into his minion swarm and AoE burn enemies down while healing his minions with the same skill. Drawback: it ends when you run out of energy.

Skill 2 gathers up all your existing minions and makes them form up into one giant bone goliath, Devastator-like.

largeminion

I was already chuckling to see the three-headed monstrosity that I’d gathered from the three minions I had out, just about my height or the height of the boss. (Three souls, right?)

Then some chance spamming of itty bitty minions gave me 5 or 6 out at one time (killing stuff returns a soul charge back, yeah?) and I hit button 2 for the hell of it.

rarrrr

RAAAWRRRR.

Omg, I’d created a MONSTER.

And it was MINE.

It engaged the boss, towering over it and me, and cheerfully swiped the boss into oblivion with a few hits.

You may picture me in full-on maniacal laughter at this point as I thought “Best Mastermind/Summoner Class Ever! I am so leveling this for keeps!”

(And yes, you can create further itty bitty minions while this monstrosity is following you too. So much <3 <3 <3 for the skeletal horde.)

Creates tanks, does damage, doesn’t have to get into melee if it doesn’t want to, I can see why the Tomb Raiser is considered a really good soloing class.

Deciding what to do with the free bonus cubits was a lot harder.

I eyed the store raptor for a long time, before deciding being a little faster mounted could wait, and picked up the Elysian Jug I’d also been eyeing. The default Elysian Flask heals 40% health and has 8 charges.  The store-bought Elysian Jug heals 100% health for the same number of charges.

This might be an arguable case of paying-for-power, except there are two ways to obtain it: credits, earned via a real money exchange, or cubits, earned via playing over time (doing dailies, leveling higher up in Masteries, etc.), so it becomes more a case of paying for convenience or to circumvent a time-limited grind.

The flask options are also pretty interesting in terms of lateral choices available. You can also pick up an Elysian Bandolier, which heals 20% health, but has 18 charges. Good for those that like to spam, and apparently for those that want to frequently trigger accompanying emblem flasks that also provide various buffs. There’s a Balanced Elysian Flask version that heals 40% but has more capacity, and the lazy man’s Death-Defying Vial that heals 30% health, with 10 charges, but does so automatically when low on health – good for those that tend to die with half their flasks unconsumed because they forgot or couldn’t use them in time, I guess.

In this case, I’m still too broke to think about buying Emblems, and all I really want at the moment is more effective health to prolong my characters’ survival.

A 100% health recharge flask does that very well, as long as you have nerves of steel and dare to drop to a sliver of hp remaining before quaffing.

I’d taken my highest level Knight (16, +2 from two pieces of Shadow gear) out to do his daily Star Bar and was ambling around comfortably in a Uber-Level 2 Adventure World. (He was within the level range to go to U3, but I found it a little slow going with the current gear he had, and dropped to U2 for something better paced.)

Then I saw it.

A Shadow Arena.

The second I’d seen in my Trove play so far.

Entering the first was a moot point, as I hadn’t earned enough Shadow Fragments to create a Shadow Key yet. But the second… well, I had enough for ONE key.

Did I dare? Test out if I could solo it? Something meant for 8 people? At Uber-Level 2? (I mean, oughta try soloing a U1 first, no?)

Oh, what the hell, I was more nervous about grouping with unknowns to enter an unknown place, than just wandering in myself into said unknown place to see what it was like and get my expectations set properly.

So I made the key, opened the portal and stepped in.

shadowarena

A hasty scan of a wiki revealed something about 5 waves of monsters, with one -big- bad being the 5th wave.

The first wave wasn’t so bad, a lot of small monsters, just back away a lot and kite and keep AoE cleaving with my knightly sword. Spam flasks and my elite heal when my health dropped.

Ditto the second and third.

It started becoming obvious somewhere around wave 3-4 that I was running out of full-heal flasks at too fast a rate.

Dammit, and I still had a giant boss monster to go on wave 5. Was I screwed?

With one flask left on Wave 4, I knew I had to come up with another strategy. Stat.

There was to be no climbing, every last surface was spiked, and I heartily doubted that this arena would let you place blocks. I couldn’t stop anyway, the mobs would catch up and knock my health bar into next week.

And just like that, I realized my only hope. I -couldn’t- stop. I had to kite. Big big circles so that the melee mobs couldn’t touch me.

Why?

To buy time.

Because I had a pretty damn high health regeneration rate, and every second that a mob wasn’t hitting me was pulsing my health bar back up to full.

Plus, my elite was cycling off cooldown, and this is an elite that heals you to full AND gives you 7 seconds of 75% resistance to duke it out with something.

That’s 7 seconds of dps that I can swipe away at the monsters, before legging it around the mulberry bush in the arena again.

Wave 4 down.

Wave 5 came up, still one flask left for emergencies, time to -really- make this strategy work.

There were a couple heart-stopping moments when I realized the big bad also shot out purple energy balls when one got too far from it (like you might when you’re kiting it in a giant circle), but desperation is the mother of invention and I did my best to triple jump every time I heard it make a strange coughing noise that seemed to herald a ranged attack, and pretty much every other time too since jumping would likely put me out of range of a chance attack.

It got close a few times and flung me into the spiked walls, taking off huge chunks of health, but knights have that really high regen and health pool, so it was a mad scramble to get up and run rings around him again.

Every time my elite came up, I’d dive back into the fray, get a few hits in while it knocked off almost all my health, sprung the elite, then got 10 or so hits in relatively safety, before breaking away before my resistance shield came down.

sadone

Eventually, VICTORY.

Completing the little tutorial pop-up quest that had been hanging around for umpteen levels never felt so good. Completely achieved under my own power. Fragments earned painstakingly, boss solo’ed and killed.

It was pretty obvious though that more gear would improve performance on this front… like an actually useful ally, emblems, better stats and what not. (Sighs, such are the vagaries of vertical progression games.)

But it was still damned satisfying that good movement and tactics and the action combat allowed me to get away with something like this, slow going it might be.

The next day was work on the to-do list day.

Trove’s systems are really elegant in their simplicity, while still remaining interconnected.

Finishing the leveling of ringcrafting required 1100 shapestone ore.

I mostly did it super-casually, stopping to mine any purple ore cubes I saw, in between traveling from one lair or dungeon to another.

If I stumbled across a procedurally-generated mine/tunnel/cavern glistening with ores, I threw aside the “Destination: Lair” plan in favor of chasing after one shiny vein or another.

Now and then, one would organically end up mining together with some other players, speeding up the proccess, before just as organically (a la GW2) separating and going our own ways.

groupmining

Yet, it is possible to be even more optimal or organized for even greater benefit, if so motivated. See this Strip Miners Reddit thread, where whole groups of people apparently teleport to one location, throw a bunch of bombs for the quickest mining possible, and all reap the benefits. (Each bomb costs about 10 shapestone ore to make, so it’s a bit prohibitive to use when solo mining shapestone, imo.)

After crafting the rings, it is amusing to see that the rings turn up in boxes that you open to see what randomly generated stats turn up. This, of course, is a sneaky way of getting players used to the feeling of opening lockboxes, even if these particular lockboxes are entirely generated from in-game resources.

They sure are shiny when tossed on the floor like that though.

ringsgalore

Then I went fishing. Lots of fishing.

Realizing that I probably ought to collect the lowliest boat and ugly ragged sails anyway for the sake of completing the collection and earning mastery points (all those interconnected systems), I decided not to be cheap and spent the 600 glim to buy the really basic dinghy / raft thing.

Since I had it, I might as well go sailing around the Treasure Isles for a while, right?

Then I stumbled into the merchants. The first sold Buddybot soultraps, which were not the cat soultraps that I wanted, but eh, it was only 300 glim for an ally, and when you have a grand total of zero of them, any lockbox containing an ally is a win, right?

I bought a couple. Got a few cute bot allies, some that reduced damage taken, some that increased physical damage. Oh well, didn’t seem too bad. Better than Diggsy the mole, which only increases mining speed.

Some more sailing later, I found the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. The cat soultrap merchant.

catsoultrap

Eh, it wasn’t as if I had that much glim left to try my luck, but what the hell, I bought 5 and thought I might get a few common cat allies.

prowlingshadow

On the fifth lockbox, this popped out, nearly causing me to hyperventilate.

THE Prowling Shadow ally that was supposed to give really good lifesteal and be great for Knights and Dracolytes for effectively bolstering their health.

After spending only 1500 glim.

That seemed ridiculously fortunate for a ‘Rare’ drop.

Ironically, I decided to buy 10 more lockboxes because I wanted to see what other cats I might be able to add to my collection, and after being dismayed at some seven repeats, and oh, one uncommon skeletal cat, -another- Prowling Shadow dropped out.

“…..”

I tucked it into the bank for now, awaiting the day I get brave enough to figure out how to use the trading system / trading post and *ugh* manually trade. (Something I’ve always loathed and never did in Guild Wars 1, and only did once -super-nervously- in Path of Exile.)

Of course, I couldn’t resist taking a dive into Uber-3 after that, with a Prowling Shadow out, and could immediately feel a pretty solid difference in Knightly survival.

Soon, it’ll be time to collect enough resources to make an Uber-4 portal and then figure out just how much more I need to buff out my gear to handle that.

It presumably gets grindier and grindier from here on out, but I do have alt classes to amuse myself leveling with, and I’m not really racing with anybody regarding gear progression. As a secondary game, it’s more of a “let’s play every day for an hour or two, accumulate whatever progress is possible, and we’ll see what we can manage to achieve in 2-3 months from now.”

Assuming I don’t get distracted by something newer and shinier.

This post was brought to you by the letter B for Belghast and Blaugust, and the number 3.

A Single-Player MOBA?

Tobold has come up with an intriguing, if heretical, idea: Why not a soloable or single-player MOBA (or game mode?)

It’ll catch a hitherto untapped audience, those that prefer PvE or those that can’t commit to the length of a match with other players (without a pause button to periodically go AFK) or those simply too nervous to learn the depth of a MOBA while facing the habitual toxicity of its regular audience (and provide a stepping stone training mode for those who might not mind PvP but want some extended practice by themselves first.)

The imagined protests that immediately cross my mind are those that shriek, “OMG, the very POINT of a MOBA is to group up to defeat challenges! Teamwork and communication are critical! The very feeling we’re craving is in that practiced coordination and super-smooth execution! Go solo somewhere else, like a singleplayer RPG, and not in MY game!”

Amusingly, it seems to be a similar protest to those who oppose soloability in MMOs, or soloable dungeons, or what-have-you.

There appears to be an underlying fear that they won’t have anyone to play with, if a solo option existed.

But frankly, that seems to be a completely off-base assumption, given the example of both solo and group options co-existing in MMOs. The social players still party up and complain bitterly about instances that force them to solo, the solo players still wander off by themselves and complain bitterly about instances that force them to group, and if the devs manage to hit that magic “no-forcing, solo or group as you prefer” option, then everyone seems more or less happy, or at least, content to deal with it.

Creating alternative game modes is great for variety, offering choices for people with different preferences.

The danger seems to be mostly overwhelming a player with options (which basically means they need a linear progression path or some kind of signposting or a “do this activity for more bonuses today!” promotion), plus the issue of having to devote sufficient developer resources to tend to that game mode.

Some people might wonder, “Well, in many MOBAs today, you can already play solo, in a sense. What’s he going on about?”

It’s true. Many many people solo queue into a match that contains other players on both sides.

Still others will solo queue into a co-op game, in which players are all on one side and bots on another, which is the equivalent of GW2-like social engineering – everyone on the same side, incentivized to cooperate against a computer-controlled enemy team, essentially PvE in a MOBA.

Anyone can easily set up a bot game in which all other nine players are bots, where they are completely alone and left in peace to do whatever the hell they want, or a custom game where they can tweak some variant of this player-bot formula to however they like.

But I think Tobold is implying something a little more. That developers can explore this as yet unexperimented-with space or niche further.

An easy analogy is that of dungeons in an MMO.

People expect to group up, to have roles and experience teamwork while defeating a sequence of enemies (with complex mechanics to learn) for rewards at the end.

However, we have the example of Guild Wars 1, which turned the concept of dungeoning on its head a little by letting players solo their way through pretty much all instances with henchmen or heroes (and mind you, some players still grouped to do the harder dungeons faster and more efficiently.) Ditto The Secret World, if I remember correctly, some instances were soloable.

We have Guild Wars 2, which has experimented with the idea of the Queen’s Gauntlet, a solo-only series of challenges (with complex mechanic to learn), as well as inadvertently produced a challenging side activity of soloing dungeons meant for groups (which appeals to another subset of players.)

Why not create MOBA game modes with a little twist to them?

One interesting possibility that comes to mind goes back to a MOBA’s RTS roots. Just like you could have one player control a number of heroes in GW1, why not let a single player control multiple MOBA heroes?  That would probably be a great multi-tasking, micro-taxing, control-group practice singleplayer challenge right there. It’s not as if MOBAs don’t embrace that concept already, with heroes that can summon other mobs or illusions.

Something else players of singleplayer modes do expect is some kind of narrative or progression path to follow. Why not throw in a story mode in chapters bookending MOBA fights, perhaps with preset groups of opposing or allied heroes?

It’s not like it hasn’t been done before. Duels of the Planeswalkers is a Magic: The Gathering game that some players buy for its PvP, and some of whom merely buy to play its singleplayer chapters or puzzle challenges, unlocking cards along the way.

One might protest that without other players to show off vanity cosmetics to, that the whole revenue stream of a MOBA might break down.

However, one could also offer hero unlocks a la League of Legends or Marvel Heroes, or even content unlocks where each hero has a ‘story mode’ that you could pay for in microtransactions. PvP players who don’t give a damn wouldn’t be nickle and dimed at all, while PvE players who like that sort of thing might be convinced to pay $2-5 for several more hours of unique gameplay/maps/puzzle/story DLC.

Unlocking special achievements or increasing levels are another easy way to keep a singleplayer gamer solo farming or engaging in speed runs or mastering Dark Souls-difficulty challenges to their heart’s content. Get X number of last hits or creep or hero kills, win Y as hero or other, defeat Z mob with some kind of mechanic or finish the match in a set amount of time or whatever.

You could have leaderboards for this version of asynchronous competition too, again akin to certain competitive mode challenges in Guild Wars 1, or even in games like Batman: Arkham _Whatever_, where you have combat and predator challenges for a single player to test themselves against, improve their score versus other players’ scores and so on.

In my opinion, the singleplayer MOBA (or variant game modes thereof) is certainly worth a company’s time to experiment and tinker with. It’ll be interesting to see which MOBA decides to eventually branch or innovate in this direction, or if they think grabbing their handfuls of the competitive PvP / eSports pie is more than sufficient to focus on.