Yesterday I spoke to Joe Rogan. We discussed, mostly, UFOs, as it is one of his favorite topics and I know a lot about the subject. I think I shocked him by showing him that Kenneth Arnold’s UFO sighting of 1947 looked suspiciously like the German stealth aircraft called the Horten HO 229. It was a moment.
We also talked about JD Vance’s discussion about UFOs and the preternatural (what he had called Demons). We also spent time discussing The Shroud of Turin, a topic I had unexpectedly brought up when I was on his podcast two years ago. Well, he is very curious about it and will most likely have an episode about it. Super fascinating. I will write more about these topics this weekend when I have settled back in at home.

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