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Return of the Dreadful Phrases

As it says in Ecclesiastes, of the making of books there is no end. And Seneca is (dubiously) said to have told us that errare humanum est1 (to err is human)2.

A side-effect of these two universal truths is that this thread is onto its third iteration.


  1. sed perseverare diabolicum, but to persist [in error] is diabolical.
  2. Alexander Pope added “to forgive divine”, which might argue agains the existence of these threads.3
  3. On the other hand, Augustine said da mihi castitatem et continentiam, sed noli modo, give me chastity and continence, but not yet.

847 responses to “Return of the Dreadful Phrases”

  1. I did not grow up in a tradition that studied St. Augustine (or, for that matter, Jesus Christ, Moses, or Mohammed).

    What was he referring to with “continentiam”? In context, I doubt he was talking about the ability to voluntarily control urination.

  2. “Continent” means pretty much “able to control oneself”. The meaning has narrowed.

  3. Well, it’s control, and it’s control of the same organ…it’s basically a synonym for chastity. It’s a tautology.

  4. Is this politics-free? Because our not-president says we have “BOARDER” problem, which means that the Third Amendment is needed, perhaps for the first time ever.

  5. From Adam-Troy Castro’s FB. “Spotted in the ARC of a really outstanding upcoming novel: ‘The glasses on the bridge of his knows.’”

  6. OtterB@5: not the best song Kansas recorded.

  7. Can I get a citation for that Seneca quote? I cannot find it.

    And I think it is vanishingly likely that he would use the word “diabolicum”, which gets into Latin as a transliteration of New Testament Greek.

    So maybe he said something like “errare humanum est” somewhere, but I strongly suspect that second half comes much later than Seneca.

    I feel bad for being so pedantic. But then again, the “dreadful phrases” threads are natural display-cases for pedantry, so maybe it is less out of place here?

  8. Oldster, I cannot find a citation for it, but it is universally attributed to Seneca.

    Diabolicum is not a common Latin word, but the Greek word διαβολικός means “slanderous” or “lying”. (It’s also not common; I can see no references to it before the common era in Perseus.

    I’ll amend the entry to say it’s attributed to Seneca.

  9. I’m afraid that between us we are illustrating the saying of St. Ambrosius, “to err is human, but to make a big deal pointing out other people’s errors is, like, being a jerk.”

    I’m pretty sure it was St. Ambrosius?

    I could be wrong. As Martin Luther said to the Pope in his 95 theses, “yeah? well, you know, that’s just like, your opinion, man.”

  10. Oldster, you are correct; it is Ambrosius who wrote errare humanum est, sed volgo errores aliorum indicare equidem crudelis est.

    It’s in De Officiis Ministrorum, Book IV, De Mediis Sociabilibus.

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