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The first thing that came to our heads

“Monster Mash,” “Crocodile Rock,” and “Jailhouse Rock” are all real songs about other, fictional songs that share the same titles as the real songs. Any other examples? And is there a name for this kind of song?

Actually, “Monster Mash” is technically about a dance, not a song, but still, it relates a story which logically presumes the existence of a fictional piece of music pre-existing the real song, and (the peculiar thing is this my friends) leaves open the possibility that the referenced fictional song might not resemble like the real one.

Oh, hey, “Time Warp” from Rocky Horror is another one.

133 responses to “The first thing that came to our heads”

  1. “Come Out Ye Black and Tans” is in the ballpark: the narrator’s father sings a song, identified as “this chorus,” which is presumably the chorus of the present song as well. But Dad isn’t singing the whole song, obviously… And it’s possible that Dad’s song does have verses (which would then be different verses from the ones we have).

  2. Would “Waltzing Matilda” fit the pattern? I think so, even though we get bits of the pre-existing song embedded in the chorus of the song we have.

  3. From the post title, “The Best Song in the World” might or might not qualify. The audience knows only two things about the song:

    1. “It was the best song in the world”, and being sung, we can’t conclusively say if that was a description or the actual title

    2. “The song [they] played that fateful night didn’t sound anything like this song”. I’m of the opinion that this line means the song in question was neither by Tenacious D, nor by Led Zeppelin, since elsewhere you can hear a bit of guitar work that sounds like Stairway to Heaven.

  4. “The Song of Phemius” may be related.

    In the Odyssey, there’s a bard named Phemius, and he sings a song about, well, the Odyssey:

    “For them the famous minstrel was singing, and they sat in silence listening; and he sang of the return of the Achaeans—the woeful return from Troy which Pallas Athena laid upon them. ” (book 1.325-327)

    Not a perfect match, both because there is a lot more to the Odyssey than this brief mention, and also because what Phemius sings cannot contain all of the events in the Odyssey, since they have not all occurred yet.

    So this is more like: a ballad which sings about someone singing, not the very ballad being sung (the outer ballad, so to speak), but a different instance of the same ballad-type.

  5. My memory betrayed me; I had thought that “Year 3000” by Busted was in this category. However it is instead merely a temporal paradox, with the lyric declaring “this song had gone multi-platinum.” The song is a report on the year 3000 by the band’s neighbour Peter who had travelled there and listened to the song.

  6. And the only reason I’m
    Singing you this song now is cause you may know somebody in a similar
    Situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if your in a
    Situation like that there’s only one thing you can do and that’s walk into
    The shrink wherever you are, just walk in say “Shrink, You can get
    Anything you want, at Alice’s restaurant. “. And walk out. You know, if
    One person, just one person does it they may think he’s really sick and
    They won’t take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,
    They may think they’re both faggots and they won’t take either of them.
    And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in
    Singin a bar of Alice’s Restaurant and walking out. They may think it’s an
    Organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said
    Fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice’s Restaurant and
    Walking out. And friends they may thinks it’s a movement.

    And that’s what it is, the Alice’s Restaurant Anti-Massacre Movement, and
    All you got to do to join is sing it the next time it come’s around on the
    Guitar.

  7. I was about to name songs like The Twist, Let’s Twist Again, Do the Locomotion, but realized there is no fictional song in these. They are about themselves, soundtracks to specific dance moves.

    But maybe they are a stepping stone, a gateway drug to popular songs about fictional songs that share a title. Dance songs are the model they deviate from.

  8. Another not quite:

    [LADY OF THE LAKE]
    A sentimental song
    That casts a magic spell
    They all will hum along
    We’ll overact like hell
    For this is the song that goes like this

    [GALAHAD]
    Yes it is!

    Sorry to be offering multiple near-misses. It’s hard to find exact matches (sc. real song about fictional song that shares title”), so I’m brainstorming aloud with anything that approximates.

  9. It’s a poem, rather than a song, unless someone has set it to music (which they should), but James Fenton has a piece that begins

    ‘Have you not heard the song?
    The Song That Sounds Like This’.

    It’s called, of course, ‘The Song That Sounds Like This’.

    (There’s probably a version of it to be found somewhere on the Internet, but it’s a tricky one to Google.)

  10. More about a song category than a particular song:

    ANOTHER SOMEBODY DONE SOMEBODY WRONG SONG

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