Amid great power rivalry, New Zealand is fortifying ties in Southeast Asia

Here’s my latest episode for The Detail — this time with video, especially for you here in the Between Giants community. You can listen to the edited podcast the traditional way: On RNZ, Apple, Spotify or YouTube.

Or you can watch the unedited videos below (with subtitles, even).

This week we’re talking about Southeast Asia and its importance to New Zealand, because there’s been a lot going on.

To hear about how Southeast Asian countries are trying to diversify their relationships amid growing great power rivalry, I talked to Damien Cave, who’s Vietnam bureau chief for the New York Times and often writes about regional dynamics.

For a New Zealand perspective, I spoke with Suzannah Jessep, the chief executive of the Asia New Zealand Foundation.

First, here’s the interview with Suz Jessep:

And my discussion with Damien Cave:

Thanks for listening or watching. Have a great weekend

- Anna