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The Seraphim · Aug 1, 2026

Unfinished Business: Banned +Williamson Interview

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Sean Johnson · The Seraphim

Bishop Richard Williamson (1940 - 2025)

In November, 2022 I travelled to St. Mary’s, KS to interview +Williamson (who had gained entry into the United States from Mexico using a fake COVID Passport). It would be the last time His Lordship would step foot on American soil, and the last time I would ever see him.

The occasion for the interview, coming as it did in late 2022, was a review of the Resistance movement at its 10-year anniversary. However, the subject matter of the interview was the history of the SSPX ralliement to modernist Rome, going back to the death of Archbishop Lefebvre, and progressing to the (then) present.

The interview is therefore nearly four years-old, and in fact it is old news. So why post it here? Why now?

About a year or so after the interview was published on YouTube in 5 parts, Part 3 was banned. Fortunately, others had quickly uploaded it onto other video websites, where it survived. A year after that, Part 4 disappeared, likewise banned by YouTube.

As time passes by, these banned parts are becoming harder and harder to find, and although posting them here now seems a rather abrupt departure from the subject matter of my previous article, I had the inspiration to give this interview a home here, where I (and others) will be able to reference it from time to time.

The links below are all to the Odysee.com platform, and consequently will only function so long as that platform remains available (and does not remove the videos itself).

A more permanent PDF of the entire interview is also available below, for those who prefer to read, or would like to copy/paste quotes. The PDF doc notes where the various parts of the interview end:

Part 1 of 5: Here

0:00 - What is the Resistance?
7:15 - Cracks form after +Lefebvre's death
14:00 - Is Resistance God's will, despite divisions?
20:45 - Lefebvre's principle of action in 1988
25:47 - Why they immediately began chasing legality
34:10 - More on why +Lefebvre changed in 1988
36:43 - Why conciliarists can't tolerate any Tradition
37:54 - Accordists deny existence of +Lefebvre's principle
42:46 - Why didn't the secret dissenters leave?
50:05 - From the magnet of Lefebvre and truth, to that of authority after he died
51:20 - Beginning the "prophecy" of Madame Rossiniere and +Fellay

Part 2 of 5: Here

0:00 - Mme. Rossiniere "prophesizes" to +Fellay (Continued)
2:48 - Rossiniere backlash causes +Fellay to keep GREC meetings secret?
10:08 - GREC meetings culminate in duplicitous pilgrimage to Rome
12:35 - +Fellay trying to remove +Williamson from Winona since 1999
15:41 - +Fellay condemns Campos accord (but continues working for one)
21:15 - Incessant conferences on relations with Rome to build desire
22:00 - +Fellay uses Fr. Celier's book for his blueprint
25:00 - The Holocaust Interview: A monkeywrench in +Fellay's plan
34:08 - +Fellay sidelines +Williamson to get a deal
43:27 - +de Galarreta's Albano "Reflections" show loyalty to company comes 1st
47:59 - +Fellay says he'll accept a practical accord, and sparks Resistance movement
50:08 - "Letter of the Three Bishops" to +Fellay

Part 3 of 5: Here

0:00 - The Letter of the Three Bishops
3:29 - +Fellay's response to The Letter
6:10 - Independent pockets was not the original Resistance plan
9:58 - April 15, 2012 Doctrinal Declaration and SSPX General Chapter
11:13 - +Williamson to be expelled from SSPX
12:40 - +Williamson refuses option for pension/residence
14:57 - Fr. Pfeiffer creates poor image (also misconstrues +Fellay offer)
18:18 - +Williamson returns to Holocaust Interview: Its about truth
21:07 - +Williamson expelled for going to the rescue of Santa Cruz
23:14 - Fr. Pfluger's 2011 letter against +Williamson on the Holocaust
25:25 - Cognitive Dissonance - Selling the deal to yourself
27:55 - SSPX schisms reemerge within Resistance (Fr. Pfeiffer)
29:39 - Consecration of +Faure for the continuation of truth
36:29 - SSPX condemns the consecration as attack dogs for Rome
39:29 - Apostolate stabilized/sustained by truth, not organization
42:24 - The emergence of +Vigano
44:30 - Answering +Vigano criticism #1: Won't say "Jew"
45:40 - Answering +Vigano criticism #2: Opus Dei contacts.
51:05 - Ladislaus coins the "Vigano Effect" (continues into Part 4)

Part 4 of 5: Here

0:00 - Ladislaus and the "Vigano Effect" (Con't.)
4:30 - +Vigano Objection #3: Giving Trump a pass on the vax
11:19 - +Vigano objection #4: Support for Putin
16:20 - A subject which cannot be named
25:53 - +Vigano objection #5: Episcopal consecration
33:31 - New sacraments: From doubt to invalid intention
38:30 - +Vigano objection #6: Heading for sedevacantism?
44:15 - Final word on +Vigano (Overwhelmingly positive)
45:26 - Final word on Putin (Overwhelmingly positive)
49:20 - From Putin to the works of Oliver Stone

Part 5 of 5: Here

0:00 - The human element of the Church is destroyed.
1:30 - God will intervene to clean house by chastisement.
2:35 - You will have two weapons (Re: Rosary and Garabandal)
3:50 - Bishop Williamson's interesting defense of Garabandal.
5:36 - How will we withstand the chastisement?
6:30 - Pray 15 decades/day to protect your families and right the ship.

Read the original on seraphim54.substack.com

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