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If You Love Books · Jun 5, 2026

Season Two, Episode Four: Writing, Recovery, And Artistic Truth with Luke Goebel and Amy Speace

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Red Hen Press · If You Love Books

Red Hen Radio shares an enlightening episode with two amazing writers for this latest episode.

In today’s episode, the guests share a deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation with Red Hen Press publisher Kate Gale. Singer-songwriter and poet Amy Speace & screenwriter and novelist Luke Goebel discuss their new books and dive into a conversation of creativity, recovery, music, literature, and artistic purpose.

Amy Speace reflects on the relationship between songwriting and poetry, describing them as “the same religion, different sect.” while Luke Goebel explores the inspirations behind his novel Kill Dick. He discusses writing about power, wealth disparity, addiction, and the systems that shape contemporary American life.

Luke Goebel is an American novelist, screenwriter, producer, and publisher. He is the author of Fourteen Stories, None of Them Are Yours, winner of the Ronald Sukenick Innovative Fiction Prize, and the novel Kill Dick. He co-wrote the films Causeway and Eileen, starring Thomasin McKenzie and Anne Hathaway; for Causeway, Brian Tyree Henry received an Academy Award nomination. Goebel is co-owner and president of Tyrant Books and lives in Los Angeles.

The Cardinals is Amy Speace’s debut collection. She is an award-winning Americana folk singer and songwriter discovered by Judy Collins. Her songs have been recorded by Ms. Collins and many others and she has won International Song of the Year from the Americana Music Association (UK). Her writing has been published in The New York Times, The Guardian, Working Mother, and Salon.com. She received her MFA from Spalding University and teaches English at Cumberland University. She resides in Nashville, Tennessee, with her son, Huckleberry, and her dog, Dusty Springfield.

For a transcription of the episode, please download the PDF here: Season 2 Episode 4 Transcription

For a list of our episodes this season, find them all on our website here:

https://redhen.org/red-hen-radio/

Find Season 1 episodes on our archives page here:

https://redhen.org/red-hen-radio-archive/

Grab a copy of Kill Dick here.

Preorder The Cardinals here.

Authors Mentioned

Douglas Manuel, poet of Testify and Trouble Funk

Carolyn See, author of Golden Days and Day of the Locust

Nathanael West, author of Day of the Locust

John Steinbeck, author of The Grapes of Wrath, In Dubious Battle, and various.

Walt Whitman, poet of Leaves of Grass

Books Mentioned

The Big Sleep by Raymond Chandler

Helpful Resource Guide

For any information mentioned in the episode.

Ethnomusicologist is the study of music in its social and cultural contexts.

Luigi Mangione, man accused and arrested for taking the life of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare in 2024.

One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, a 1975 Academy Award Winning film

National Shakespeare Conservatory

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