Empathy isn't a vibe, it's a practice.

Today, Becky Mollenkamp sat down with Terri Givens, author of Radical Empathy and Reckoning.

The conversation covers a lot:

• How do you build a genuinely diverse team without it feeling like tokenism?

• What do you do when someone’s beliefs aren’t just different from yours, but actively harmful?

• How do you actually get vulnerable at work when the culture rewards showing up armored?

• Is “safe space” even the right goal, or are we setting ourselves up to fail?

• Where’s the line between having compassion for someone’s history and excusing their behavior?

• What does it look like to build trust with institutions (she uses police work as the example) without pretending the harm isn’t real?

• What can business learn from history about the role it’s played in past moments of change?

This is the episode for anyone who nods along at “we need more empathy in business,” but wants to know what that actually looks like on a Tuesday.

Find Terri Givens (and her books) at https://www.terrigivens.com/ (her books are 50% off right now if you buy through her links!).

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