YES!! ^^^
I am cautious to disparage Julias name purely based off of rumours (not trying to shit on you there, cause im sure you are too ^^) but when its close to impossible to find an account of Julia that isn’t coated in heavy bias, it is difficult to come to any real conclusion about her. And so I guess we have to import our own critical thinking skills, and ask ourselves if potentially she did play some role in John developing this attraction to her, or whether her behaviour around John and other teenage boys was appropriate. But even if she didn’t act in any kind of manner that provoked those feelings in John, I still think we should be treating the matter with a lot more empathy and understanding then *certain people* do. Not just for Johns sake, but even just for the sake of anyone who has had similar experiences to him. Writing these sorts of things off as just “gross” or “disgusting” has no benefits at the end of the day.
Also yes to the stuff about Pauls dad! I don’t know to what extent Jims upbringing would be considered abusive, but it doesn’t feel unreasonable to question whether it might’ve entailed abuse to some degree. Hearing Paul tell this story (at 37:24) in the Stern interview, it does feel like the stuff about his dad hitting him really did hurt and disturb on a level that we don’t talk about enough. That doesn’t mean we have to vilify Jim, or hate the guy - at the end of the day, there is only so much information on him, and none of us were there etc. - plus there is some truth to claim that “thats just how kids were raised in those days”, so im not saying we can’t show any empathy at all towards Pauls dad. But I don’t know, I just don’t think we have to neglect the discussion that Pauls childhood might’ve been difficult too.