events/2025-09-17-hwc-europe
Homebrew Website Club Europe/London was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2025-09-17.
- Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2025-09-17-hwc-europe
Participants
Thomas Vander Wal https://vanderwal.net
zacharykaiwrites - https://zacharykai.net/
benji - https://benji.dog- Ricardo - https://www.ricardochavezt.com/
Reilly Spitzfaden https://reillyspitzfaden.com/Joe Crawford https://artlung.com/
Al Abut https://alabut.com
pcarrier.com https://pcarrier.com
capjamesg https://jamesg.blog
jo https://dead.garden- MetroWind http://mws.rocks/
Tantek Γelik https://tantek.com/
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Notes
- Welcome to HWC!
- Starting the conversation with food continues: coffee, then chocolate.
What Have We Been Doing On Our Websites This Week?
- pcarrier.com made a 255 byte webpage: https://pcarrier.com/smol
- Tantek Γelik created a challenge for making these!
- zacharykaiwrites is thinking about making one too. Update! Made it: https://lab.lunaseeker.com/tests/256bytes.html
- James made https://jamesg.blog/8bit
- zacharykaiwrites has been doing some digital mending: refactoring code, fixing git connections, adding a new member to the Star Wars Webring (https://zacharykai.net/lists/starwars), and reorganizing the blogroll: https://zacharykai.net/blogroll
Thomas Vander Wal has been building out lab pages for search, image placement, and webmentions. They are not in the listing in the lab yet.
- https://benji.dog/blank
- Al Abut is playing with Obisidian in attempt to organize blog posts and not impressed so far (looks too much VS Code than a notes app)
- Ricardo just updated his /now page (https://www.ricardochavezt.com/now) and adjusted the layout of the /garden page so it doesn't look horrible in smaller screens
Further Discussions
- Slug Length
- Some HTML elements don't need a closing tag
- The longest slug is Limax cinereoniger
- https://http.cat/status/414
- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/417142/what-is-the-maximum-length-of-a-url-in-different-browsers
- https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Reference/Status/414
- Code Snippets
- https://benji.dog/code/import-letterboxd-watchlist/
- James is working on a design for code snippets. There is an example at https://jamesg.blog/code/example
- Could / when should snippets be blog posts?
- #l5 to get line five, #l5-10 to get lines 5-10
- https://git.sr.ht/~akkartik/crosstable.love/tree/main/item/0003-refresh_debug_animations#L6
- Alto: https://alto.jamesg.blog (implements RelMeAuth with support for Wikipedia, email, GitHub, and has some support for Mastodon)
- IndieLogin has added support for Codeberg and GitLab - see https://indielogin.com/setup
- Can we have persistent meeting links?
- https://github.com/aaronpk/Meetable
- tilde
- https://tilde.club/~artlung/ is an example of a Tilde website
- I created a user page on the IndieWeb wiki this week User:Tilde.club_~artlung
- Along with a page that also uses IndieLogin for my Mastodon account User:Xoxo.zone_@artlung
- Tilde has a limit of 1GB (a lot more than
- TOCs on 11ty
- https://reillyspitzfaden.com/uses
- Conclusion from discussion: there doesn't appear to be an elegant way to add a TOC after the first few paragraphs in a web page.
- .An image map with individually labeled cheerios
- Desire to have an editable version of your website
- Massive Attack using facial recognition https://petapixel.com/2025/09/17/band-massive-attack-uses-live-facial-recognition-on-audience-in-powerful-critique-of-technology/
- C++ powered blog software "Planck" https://github.com/MetroWind/planck-blog
- https://blog.mws.rocks
- tricky part - make the scrollwheel work for horizontally scrolling page (I believe Nick Simson mentioned this tricky issue in a FrESH event - I wonder if there are issues to allow this)
- Today I learned: on my Mac, by pressing SHIFT + Scroll wheel I can scroll horizontally on π€―π€―π€―
https://blog.mws.rocks/p/97 when it is in planck-light-columns theme
- https://photos.mws.rocks/ (implemented in Rust) (absolutely beautiful shots β€οΈ)
- https://photos.mws.rocks/feed.xml
- source code: https://github.com/MetroWind/nspic
- And incredible to look at CMS oriented C++ code https://github.com/MetroWind/planck-blog/tree/master/src
- CSS scroll behaviour: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/scroll-behavior
- Webmention: Webmention
- https://webmention.io
- webmention.js
- https://github.com/PlaidWeb/webmention.js/
- An open version of Instagram that lets you view photos, comment (via Micropub?), send Webmentions
- PixelFed is heavy
- IndieWeb News but for photos (https://news.indieweb.org)?
- Mark added a photo of his cat to his website footer at https://marksuth.dev
- https://indiewebcat.com/
- maia crimew's site has a cat that follows your cursor around: https://maia.crimew.gay/
- https://github.com/adryd325/oneko.js/
- Pierre made https://pcarrier.com/packed (warning: the page has pulsing colours)
- "cat flake.nix"5
- Paper airplanes that you can fly between websites
- Perhaps using websocket communication https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebSocket
- each site would need to share some minimal state about the "location" of the airplane.
- Perhaps an iframe that was loaded on many websites could self-reload and depending on how the url was loaded the paper airplane could be on page at a time
- Multiplayer websites
- https://offrecord.ca/
- A blog with multiple collaborators: https://grizzlygazette.bearblog.dev/
- https://lab.lunaseeker.com/tests/256bytes.html
- Jo added a logo to her site wiki
- Joe worked on a CodePen that has spinning windmills
- https://codepen.io/artlung/pen/RNWzYpY
- https://tilde.club/~artlung/miniclock/
- Clock hands are part of a conic-gradient which is why they get wider at their ends
- New reels page https://artlung.com/reels/
- New developing page https://artlung.com/site-index/ to attempt to catalog all the pages on my site (lacks blog urls as the 9,315 posts overwhelms the browser memory wise.
- Created CSS to format flat files meant for cassette covers into an isometric view https://codepen.io/artlung/full/JoYQoZZ ~ originating in https://artlung.com/mixtapes/
- Front End Study Hall, a place to learn about and build things with HTML/CSS, is being hosted tomorrow: https://events.indieweb.org/2025/09/front-end-study-hall-036-duXKDJFSwypW
- Good design can feel invisible, which usually implies there is a skilled designer behind the scenes
- "Simple doesn't mean easy."
- IndieWeb Carnival: https://toground.link/second-person-birds/
- IndieWeb Movie Club: https://zacharykai.net/notes/iwmsep25
- James fixed his link graph browser extension. He will publish a fix in the next few days.
- Sites with cool designs
- https://chrisglass.com
- https://v7.robweychert.com/ (backfilled all posts from Twitter; one design goal was to take back all his content)
- More: https://lai.nz/small-web
- "Lovely personal sites A handful of reminders that the small web is beautiful."
- https://lmnt.me
- https://lmnt.me/blog/the-web-is-so-cool.html
- "Itβs one of the freest things. Present anything in any way you want, formatted exactly how you want. The only real limitation is the time it takes to do it. But in my experience, itβs absolutely always worth it."
- https://xoxo.zone/@artlung/115197260482593667
- Category:SSG
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