We’re trying something new.
One of my favorite parts of publishing 40 and Giving Zero F’s is the conversations that happen afterward—especially with my friend Kathleen, who somehow manages to disagree with me on all the best topics. So we decided to hit record.
In our first episode, we tackle rules and restrictions: why I instinctively push back against them, why Kathleen thrives with structure, and what we can learn from approaching life differently.
Let us know what you think—and what topic we should debate next.

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