Monday’s episode with Demis Hassabis, Co-Founder & CEO @ Google DeepMind:
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Thursday’s episode with Rory O’Driscoll, GP @ Scale, Jason Lemkin, Founder @ SaaStr:
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My 6 key takeaways:
The Mindset of the Best Founders Right Now
In an era where money is “raining down” on everyone, Rory urges founders to run their businesses with the awareness that the music will eventually stop. He cautions that while capital feels infinite now, two-thirds of the current field will likely disappear when the cycle turns. Survival requires a mindset focused on ensuring your company is the “one-third” that makes it through the eventual consolidation.
Why buying TBPN for OpenAI was just insane
Rory views OpenAI’s acquisition of TBN as “insane” because it contradicts their internal “Code Red” focus edict. He labels it a “vanity project” that creates unnecessary distraction from core AI development. Jason suggests the deal was likely a “small chip” acquisition requiring minimal executive oversight, though he agrees that the optics of non-focus are problematic during a period of high competition.
Anthropic is Out-Accelerating with Efficiency
Anthropic recently surpassed OpenAI with $30 billion in revenue, growing 3.3x in just 4 months. Most notably, they achieved this in half the time as their rival while reportedly keeping model training costs at just one-quarter of OpenAI’s.
The Power Law of the “Big Three”
SpaceX’s confidential IPO filing targets a historic $2 trillion valuation, potentially surpassing the combined value of every tech IPO from the last 25 years. Rory notes that this valuation relies heavily on an “Elon Premium,” which drives the price far beyond what traditional asset analysis might suggest.
The Paradox of the “Crumb” Business Model
Open Router’s rapid growth to $50M ARR illustrates the massive demand for AI interfaces, but the model faces significant scaling hurdles. Because they rely on a slim 5% take rate, they must manage billions in inference volume to reach a $1BN revenue goal. Jason warns that “middleman” services with low average contract values must expand into multiple products early to avoid being commoditized by larger players.
Invisible Infrastructure: In the Agentic Era
We have entered a tipping point where AI agents are responsible for creating more databases than human developers. This shift favors platforms like Supabase, which allow agentic products to “self-deploy” a database in seconds. In this “vibe coding” landscape, infrastructure becomes invisible and configured automatically, meaning the winners will be those providing the most frictionless experience for both humans and agents.
Saturday’s episode with Carles Reina, GTM @ ElevenLabs:
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Let us know what your big takeaways from this week’s shows were in the comments below!
Thank you for reading, and don’t miss the great guests we have next week:
Monday episode: Jake Paul & Geoffrey Woo @ Anti Fund
Thursday episode: Jason Lemkin & Rory O’Driscoll
Saturday episode: 20Product
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