# World of Wisdom A curiosity driven podcast about wisdom, learning and the personal and systemic implications of the transition we are in. Hosted by Amit Paul and Nils von Heijne. For extended shownotes visit: https://worldofwisdom.substack.com/ Page: Feed: --- ## [EP302: Roundtable: Samantha Sweetwater, Rudy de Waele and Alex de Carvalho - An exploration of the blueprint for regenerative gathering](https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worldofwisdom/episodes/EP302-Roundtable-Samantha-Sweetwater--Rudy-de-Waele-and-Alex-de-Carvalho---An-exploration-of-the-blueprint-for-regenerative-gathering-e3njk0a) _2026-08-20 · World of Wisdom_ Rudy de Waele ( LI ) and Alex de Carvalho ( LI ), co-founders of Voices of Emergence — a relational learning ecology bringing together conversations, community, learning journeys and gatherings — together with Samantha Sweetwater ( LI , website ), co-created The Invitation earlier this year: an intimate gathering of around 50 people exploring what becomes possible when we create the conditions for… [Listen](https://anchor.fm/s/65f96414/podcast/play/124423626/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-19%2Fce55e276-e4cc-0d5b-0988-66dab6960eb9.m4a) ## [301. Les Szabo - Purpose Pledge, Purpose Capital and business in right relationship](https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worldofwisdom/episodes/301--Les-Szabo---Purpose-Pledge--Purpose-Capital-and-business-in-right-relationship-e3n67kk) _2026-08-09 · World of Wisdom_ Les Szabo from Dr. Bronner’s ( LinkedIn ) joined me on the podcast for a deep conversation about the Purpose Pledge and the work he is spearheading. We explore the misalignment between business and the living world, what it means to operate in right relationship, and how the Purpose Pledge turns values into visible action rather than another reporting exercise. With 90% of a company’s impact… [Listen](https://anchor.fm/s/65f96414/podcast/play/123984980/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-9%2F883838c2-f8fe-b3bc-7cae-1c0a154e0115.m4a) ## [300. Soloepisode + Interview with Amit Paul - On devotion to movement, inquiry and what's ours to do](https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worldofwisdom/episodes/300--Soloepisode--Interview-with-Amit-Paul---On-devotion-to-movement--inquiry-and-whats-ours-to-do-e3m8g96) _2026-07-18 · World of Wisdom_ Amit takes the time to celebrate the 300’th episode by diving into his work and findings over the last year. Reflecting on what is important now, what is his to do. An invitation to fully lean into what you truly care about and create value, not extract from there. The invitation of inquiry and the possibilities that open up when we let go of the posture of right and wrong and truly begin to love… [Listen](https://anchor.fm/s/65f96414/podcast/play/123010790/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-18%2Fc29b7ed5-269d-3dfc-6a0f-005e7c25580f.m4a) ## [299. Paul Svensson - on the hunt for taste, the love for variety and making food with the land.](https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worldofwisdom/episodes/299--Paul-Svensson---on-the-hunt-for-taste--the-love-for-variety-and-making-food-with-the-land-e3lnsm5) _2026-07-12 · World of Wisdom_ Paul Svensson ( LI ) came by the podcast and we spoke about how the hunt for flavour turned into a passion for regenerative farming and soil creation. We spoke of the transition from seeing difference as a problem to seeing it as an opportunity. We spoke of how good soil is the precondition for good food. How an obsession of data revealed how he (and we all) need to really fundamentally rethink… [Listen](https://anchor.fm/s/65f96414/podcast/play/122466437/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-6%2F56d33527-7839-85cb-fe69-73ca12f9c6b0.m4a) ## [298. Tim Logan, Manda Scott, Nathalie Nahai - Podcasters unite! 4 of us take a look at what we're learning across conversations](https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worldofwisdom/episodes/298--Tim-Logan--Manda-Scott--Nathalie-Nahai---Podcasters-unite--4-of-us-take-a-look-at-what-were-learning-across-conversations-e3lniit) _2026-07-06 · World of Wisdom_ This is a wonderful episode I get to lean in with Tim Logan ( LI ) of the Future of Learning Design Podcast , Nathalie Nahai ( LI ) of the In conversation with Nathali Nahai and Manda Scott ( LI ) of Accidental Gods . We have more than 1000 episodes between us. I find the observations towards the end being eerily similar although we're all focused on different domains. This is well worth a listen… [Listen](https://anchor.fm/s/65f96414/podcast/play/122456093/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-6%2Fcd7f3273-fde2-7d94-53fc-0857755c13d4.m4a) ## [297. Cordell Jacks - Regenerative investing, essence potential and breaking patterns](https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worldofwisdom/episodes/297--Cordell-Jacks---Regenerative-investing--essence-potential-and-breaking-patterns-e3jstev) _2026-05-25 · World of Wisdom_ Cordell Jacks ( LI ) CEO of Regenerative Capital Group came on the podcast and shared the work he's been involved in developing on a regenerative thesis. This episode shows that there there is not necessarily any conflict between regeneration and growth. But it does require us to rethink profit, rethink leadership and rethink the positionally of the investor. The orientation towards potentiating… [Listen](https://anchor.fm/s/65f96414/podcast/play/120533919/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-25%2Fc91cbeec-cf22-9c63-126b-1286fa7f9b72.m4a) ## [296. Lucas Matarazzo and Ollie Bream McIntosh: the rhythm of systems, collective decision making and the proper use of tech for systems change](https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worldofwisdom/episodes/296--Lucas-Matarazzo-and-Ollie-Bream-McIntosh-the-rhythm-of-systems--collective-decision-making-and-the-proper-use-of-tech-for-systems-change-e3jgmba) _2026-05-17 · World of Wisdom_ Lucas Matarazzo ( LI ) and Ollie Bream McIntosh ( LI ) came to speak about systemic transformation. We spoke of collective, systemic and machine intelligence. How we can weave together these into a richer tapestry for decision making. We spoke of how change have a temporal and cultural/psychological depth component, how systems flow and how that flow may be (re)directed. How they have a rhythm:… [Listen](https://anchor.fm/s/65f96414/podcast/play/120133418/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-17%2F5e35ac20-e5bf-2a82-bbb4-3d3154141e95.m4a) ## [295. Emily Harris and Dr Martin Lorenz - Conversational design, the anti-brief and systemic change](https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worldofwisdom/episodes/295--Emily-Harris-and-Dr-Martin-Lorenz---Conversational-design--the-anti-brief-and-systemic-change-e3j5p66) _2026-05-10 · World of Wisdom_ Dr Martin Lorenz ( LI ) and Emily Harris ( LI ) came by the podcast. We spoke about their project the Anti-Brief and their reimagining of the design profession: from a profession of knowing to one of discovery. Inviting learning and conversation to its very center. This is a conversation about deep codes, conversational design and an invitation towards a different posture. Martin and Emily are… [Listen](https://anchor.fm/s/65f96414/podcast/play/119775878/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-10%2Ffa0eddc6-787f-55dd-be2b-1cd10ba654f7.m4a) ## [294: Tharald Nustad & Evita Chiang Zanuso: Katapult future fest and systemic investing](https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worldofwisdom/episodes/294-Tharald-Nustad--Evita-Chiang-Zanuso-Katapult-future-fest-and-systemic-investing-e3i6uhj) _2026-04-20 · World of Wisdom_ Tharald Nustad ( LI ) and Evita Chiang Zanuso ( LI ) visited the podcast and we spoke in-depth about the Katapult ecosystem, where it is currently at and the Katapult Future Fest . This is a call to attend to this event that is one of the catalysing events in the impact space. This year in Amsterdam end of may. We spoke of what the metamorphosis is, what it means to focus and not spreading… [Listen](https://anchor.fm/s/65f96414/podcast/play/118765555/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-20%2F8a872a0b-c472-6b4f-1e95-e9a3e7bc7193.m4a) ## [293. Ryan (Ra) James Kemp - Original ways of being, pace, sequence and being an interface](https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worldofwisdom/episodes/293--Ryan-Ra-James-Kemp---Original-ways-of-being--pace--sequence-and-being-an-interface-e3hniru) _2026-04-10 · World of Wisdom_ Ryan James Kemp ( LI ) came on the podcast and we spoke of the Original Living Responsibilities ( LI ), living at the pace of the planet and the important of sequence. We spoke of why goals are present fobic, how circular time works, how finding a different pace may change everything. That grief is the metabolic movement of becoming reconnected. We also touch on (Re)biz the unschool for systems… [Listen](https://anchor.fm/s/65f96414/podcast/play/118262078/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-10%2F841ccc4d-e907-d53d-0be4-18200ce95437.m4a) ## [One OS for your AI workforce (Sponsored)](https://crawlproof.com/a/8BFyPAVtiolN) _2026-04-10 · **Sponsored**_ Build, direct, and supervise an AI workforce from a single operating workspace. ## [292. Lex Empress - Harmony, Performance, and the transformative quality of presence.](https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worldofwisdom/episodes/292--Lex-Empress---Harmony--Performance--and-the-transformative-quality-of-presence-e3hdcld) _2026-04-03 · World of Wisdom_ Lex Empress ( LinkTree )vocalist, systems thinker and the founder of Soulsong came by the podcast. We dove deep into what singing is, what it means to be in a commercial world as artist. Performance and presence, the tension between them and how they scaffold one another. We spoke of what it is to be in contact with what is and the transformative power of devotion to the present. We spoke of truth… [Listen](https://anchor.fm/s/65f96414/podcast/play/117928045/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-3%2F023cd333-6349-e2bb-3ed2-0b3e061d8d88.m4a)