Nate found me through one video. Not the one that made him blow up — the one before it, where he opened by telling people not to expect anything useful. No hook, no tip, no strategy. Just him, talking about growing up off-reserve, feeling caught between worlds, not always sure his own identity belonged to him. Then a few weeks later he posted a video about being an "intellectual omnivore," and it went everywhere, and four more just like it followed, and by the time we sat down he'd tripled his following in about fourteen days. So that's where we started — not with the growth, with the gap. What happens to the part of you that doesn't perform well, once you find the part that does? We got into his indigenous background, his production company, his best friend and business partner Desmond who showed up mid-conversation and ended up staying, fatherhood, masculinity, scripts versus no scripts, and whether using AI makes any of it less real. No script on our end either, for what it's worth.
Ten highlights
He hit 30,000 followers while cooking hot dogs. Found out mid-lunch, standing over the grill.
The video that actually got Bruno’s attention wasn’t the viral one — it was the one Nate almost didn’t post, about his Indigenous identity, with zero call to action.
“It takes a lot of work to make the worst thing you’ve ever seen” — Nate’s own line about what it actually costs to find your voice online.
He posts 10 to 20 trial reels a day and treats every one as a data point, not a finished thought.
His business partner Desmond joined the conversation unannounced and ended up staying for the rest of the episode.
A hard, honest exchange on AI and scripts — Nate’s never scripted a video in his life, Bruno uses AI constantly, and neither one backed down easy.
Nate on why he dropped the “niche” advice completely: “You are the niche.”
A story from a documentary he filmed about Indigenous WWII veterans denied recognition by the Canadian government — and one subject’s unscripted line: “If you can inherit their pain and their trauma, you can also inherit their power and their agency.”
The Kamloops residential school discovery in 2016, and what it did to how an entire generation of Indigenous people had to relate to their own history.
Desmond’s answer to the Eternal Loop question — sober six years, four days of fasting and silence during a Sundance ceremony, then getting to hug his family again. Bruno called it the best answer they’ve ever gotten.
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