E144 Mentor and Apprentice. Let your freak flag fly with Mack Leslie and Phil Millerberg

Music doesn't always go how you think it will, and that's a good thing. Mack shares bubbling enthusiasm about her experience working with Mentor and Muse on their immersive artist workshop. How did a song - that Phil originally hated - about vampires - become one of Mack's new hits? Support the show