A Meeting of Two Rivers of Wisdom: A Conversation with Pat McCabe (Woman Stands Shining) and Dr Jaiya John (Mshkiki Odeh Inini, Medicine Heart Man)

In this episode, we follow a river of a conversation that is a meeting of two beautiful souls, Pat McCabe and Jaiya John. We three, (Carl, Erin and Alexandre) have been deeply moved and influenced by Pat and Jaiya's writings, and presence, and work in the world, and we were inspired to host a conversation introducing these elders, who each carries such potent medicine for our times. Together, Pat…