AEWCH 321: JOSHUA RIVERS & SHULI BRANSON on WHAT WE MUST LOSE TO GAIN THE WORLD

Using AEWCH 317-320 as a starting point, I talk with JOSHUA RIVERS , poet and host of the excellent BUSY BEING BLACK podcast + frequent AEWCH guest, SHULI BRANSON (host of the podcast THE BREAKUP THEORY podcast , and translator of Guy Hocquenghem's Gay Liberation After May '68 .) about the small task of remaking the world. At the center of the episode is a thought that's something like: We have to…