# This is Marriage In season one of This Is Marriage, the podcast, journalist Eric Mack interviews his wife, author Johanna DeBiase, about their marriage. The series of frank conversations touches on everything from the horrors of dating to the best way to ignore a spouse. Page: Feed: --- ## [Episode 5: In Which We Learn Johanna May Not Be a Very Good Person](https://thisismarriage.substack.com/p/episode-5-in-which-we-learn-johanna) _2021-01-05 · Eric Mack_ This episode features tips for living with an asshole and a happy ending… that’s left unsaid. [Listen](https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/31047956/0de5f3089836584a9c6bc10e638c0200.mp3) ## [Episode 4: On Being Stuck Together, ALL THE TIME...](https://thisismarriage.substack.com/p/episode-4-on-being-stuck-together) _2020-12-29 · Eric Mack_ Years before Covid-19, Eric and Jo and their small child lived in close quarters in an isolated “homestead” high in the southern Rockies. [Listen](https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/30073245/9b79da3cd597acff6716f07686a602c8.mp3) ## [Episode 3: In Which We Learn Eric May Not Be a Very Good Person](https://thisismarriage.substack.com/p/episode-3-in-which-we-learn-eric) _2020-12-21 · Eric Mack_ Still waiting in the noisy Moulin Rouge Starbucks, Jo and Eric discuss their favorite parts of being married and how Eric escaped the misery of his single life by getting in touch with his inner asshole. [Listen](https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/27290692/38465c6645ed1412409f011943bacf59.mp3) ## [Episode 2: The Horrors of Dating and... Boogers?](https://thisismarriage.substack.com/p/episode-2-the-horrors-of-dating-and) _2020-12-18 · Eric Mack_ This is… Marriage: In a Starbucks across from the Moulin Rouge, Johanna and Eric find a quiet corner (not really) to recall single life and its struggles. [Listen](https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/26206076/fdafa30b97253f4c2b048987e035f932.mp3) ## [Episode 1: Fake Listening and Mis-remembering the Proposal](https://thisismarriage.substack.com/p/episode-1-fake-listening-and-mis) _2020-12-18 · Eric Mack_ This is… Marriage: On a rainy day in Paris, Johanna and Eric find a quiet corner (kind of) in the Pompidou Center to discuss how they struggle to listen to each other and can’t quite agree on the events that led up to their engagement over a decade earlier. [Listen](https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/26205411/54fda5f4344acfd6c622dc68889df7a9.mp3) ## [This... is Marriage, the podcast, is coming soon!](https://thisismarriage.substack.com/p/this-is-marriage-the-podcast-is-coming) _2020-12-07_ Hi, I’m journalist Eric Mack. Back in 2016, my wife — author Johanna DeBiase — and I recorded a series of short, frank conversations leading up to our tenth wedding anniversary. [Listen](https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/23150813/640869f5a0bed47c2a63cbf3e5f9c82c.mp3)