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The Shift With Sam Baker · Aug 11, 2026

Helen Thorn: 'I remember feeling, this is going to be hard, but this is the hard that I choose.'

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My guest today is the award-winning comedian and podcaster Helen Thorn. The co-creator of the comedy duo, and hit podcast, Scummy Mummies, Helen travels the UK performing in a gold catsuit.

Which might scream confidence to you, but her books tell a different story.

She is also the bestselling author of Get Divorced, Be Happy and How To Face Big Change and Come Back Stronger, which harness her trademark hope, humour and honesty to look at what it takes to go from a broken mess living on booze fags and cream eggs post divorce to marathon running whizz. Or, as she puts it, how to bounce back from life’s shittest moments!

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Helen joined me to mess around, frankly! But when we weren’t, she told me the crazy horrifying story of surviving her divorce – and honestly, if you think your ex is a bastard you aint seen nothing (I mean nothing!) yet. We also discussed the cult of the hopeless man, shaking off the cringe cloak of embarrassment, the joy of growing your own future, learning to celebrate small wins, losing your thirtysomething life blinkers, distinguishing peace from boredom and why peak midlife shit is where the magic happens!

Listen to the full episode here:

If you enjoyed this episode with Helen, you might also like my conversations with…

Author, comedian and podcaster Cariad Lloyd talks ‘grief maths’.

And writer and beauty journalist Rosie Green on how to survive when your life spirals out of control.

• For more info on all the books mentioned in every episode of The Shift with Sam Baker podcast, visit The Shift bookshop on bookshop.org.

illustration: Beth Spencer

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