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Two quirky and cerebral creatives talk it out as writer and former History teacher, John Driver, goes toe-to-toe with best friend and comedian, Jonnie W., in hilariously real and genuinely insightful conversations about life, history, current culture, faith—and everything in between.

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Guilt Trips, Fake Cakes, and Cowboy Presidents

The boys are joined by dear friend and documentary producer Alyson Holland to talk about her new project on Ronald Reagan. John forgets what generation he is in and ponders the last time we had Aly as a guest and almost burned their friendship to the ground. Meanwhile, Jonnie decides he is exactly as famous as he ever wants to be and wonders whether the world's longest hotdog was even edible.…

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Hometowns, Angry Birds, and Folk Music: with Caleb Christopher Edwards!

John forgets the lyrics to his own song and reveals his earliest childhood memory. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders "very special episodes" of 80's sitcoms that dealt with heavy issues and tells the tale of the heroic birds who ruined Hitler's Olympic Games in Berlin. Plus, the boys are joined by their good friend, singer/songwriter Caleb Christopher Edwards, to talk about his brand new project…

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Butterfly Kisses, Damaged Guitars, and The Best Revenge

John changes his mind on a cheesy 90's song now that he's a girl dad and ponders whether aliens are real. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals the commercial jingle that makes him homicidal and tells the insane story of the last bareknuckle boxing match. Plus, a conversation about friends, enemies, and the best revenge. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by July: "Water your plants all you want. They're…

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Old Athletes, Walmart, and Criticism

John plays basketball against some teenagers and finds out that George Lucas was just making Star Wars up as he went along. Meanwhile, Jonnie evicts his uninvited bird guests and complains about fast food prices like an old man shouting at the clouds. Plus, a conversation about why negativity is so easy and why hope takes courage. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Oranges: "Now 100% pulp!"…

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Filibusters, IKEA Statues, & Justice

John passes a class without ever opening the textbook and ponders whether he used to preach too long. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders if train travel is really safe and tells the story of a gift from France that came unassembled-and the strange political path it took to become our symbol of freedom. Plus, a conversation about justice, greatness, and the responsibility we have to one another. Today's…

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Andre The Giant, Ice Cream Etiquette, and Old Friends

John does the work of 3 grown men and learns why Benjamin Franklin was a lot like Andre the Giant. Meanwhile, Jonnie eats the last ice cream bar while out on tour with another comedian and tells the tale of the Satanic Panic that helped start the Black Plague in the 1200's. Plus, a conversation about why it's so hard to make new friends as adults. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Kleptomaniacs:…

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Flying Rolls, Young Elvis, and Coincidences

John avoids flying bread and questions whether the Apostle Paul was easy to get along with. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders his comedy origin story and tells the tale of the unfamous third man to walk on the moon. Plus, a conversation about coincidence, providence, and all the things we thought we wanted, but are glad we didn't get. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Movie Theatres: "Way more expensive…

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Theme Parks, Featherless Chickens, and Compromise

John wants his friends to be honest, even if it hurts-and gets hungry hearing about a tornado in England. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns exactly how many roller coasters it takes to make him nauseous and makes a joke at a "General Baptist" convention. Plus, a conversation about whether compromise is always a bad thing. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Message in a Bottle: "The least reliable way to…

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Scary Teens, Terminators, & Persistent Prayers

John is terrified of youth (even though he was a youth pastor) and congratulates Jonnie on his symmetrical face wounds. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals the surprising star who was rejected for the lead role in the original Terminator movie and tells the tale of Fred Turner, the man who walked across America. Plus, a conversation about asking, seeking, and knocking-and why our persistence in prayer…

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Broken Noses, Big Macs, and Trusting God

John goes on a fast to get ready for his time on camera and makes a staunch defense of green peppers. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells us the harrowing tale of a gnarly scooter crash that temporarily derailed his comedy tour, but might have actually improved his nose. Plus, a conversation about what "good" really means and why God is trustworthy, but not predictable. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by…

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