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Tales From The PROS

Tales from the PROS is hosted by Michael Georgiou, Co-Founder, and Eric Lawrence, Director of Growth at Imaginovation, an award-winning app and software development company. Each episode dives into honest, unscripted conversations, hard-earned lessons, and educational insight into how to help bridge the gap between technology and people. If you’re a founder, exec, or innovator trying to navigate the tech world without getting burned, this podcast is your no-BS roadmap. Through real talk,…

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Ep 89 - Homeless to SaaS Exit: Draven McConville on Building Klipboard

In this episode of Tales from the Pros , host Eric Lawrence sits down with Draven McConville , entrepreneur and former CEO of Klipboard, to discuss his journey from homelessness at 18 to building and successfully exiting two technology businesses. Draven shares how his early experiences shaped his resilience and approach to entrepreneurship, along with the lessons he learned building custom…

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Where the Smart Money in Tech is Going (feat. Jim Ferry)

In this episode of Tales from the Pros, hosts Michael Georgiou and Eric Lawrence sit down with Jim Ferry, a partner at Volition Capital, to explore what investors are really looking for in AI and technology businesses in 2026. With experience evaluating thousands of companies and investing in high-growth, founder-owned businesses, Jim shares how investors assess startups, founders, technology, and…

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Ep 87 - The Decisions That Turn Dreamers Into Tech Founders

In this episode of Tales from the Pros , hosts Michael Georgiou and Eric Lawrence explore one of the biggest challenges aspiring entrepreneurs face: turning a great idea into a real business. Every day, countless people dream about launching the next successful app, SaaS platform, or startup—but very few ever take the leap. Michael and Eric discuss what separates dreamers from founders, why…

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Ep 86 - How to Scale Your Funded Startup App for Success

In this episode of Tales from the Pros, hosts Michael Georgiou and Eric Lawrence sit down with Jonathan Maxim, founder of Viral App Launch, to discuss what it really takes to turn an app idea into a successful business. Drawing from hundreds of app launches and years of experience helping startups grow, Jonathan shares why most founders struggle after building their product and why success depends…

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Ep 85 - Leading Change: Turning Disruption Into Results

In this episode of Tales from the Pros , hosts Michael Georgiou and Eric Lawrence sit down with change management and enablement leader Cesar Viana Teague to explore one of the biggest challenges organizations face today: leading people through change. From ERP rollouts and CRM adoption to AI-driven transformation, Cesar explains why successful change is about more than new systems or training.…

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Ep 84 - Discovery First: How Great Digital Products Get It Right Early

In this episode of Tales from the Pros, hosts Eric Lawrence and Zach Bruno dive into one of the most overlooked yet critical stages of product development—the discovery phase. While many founders rush straight into design and development, skipping discovery often leads to wasted budgets, overbuilt products, and solutions users never actually wanted. Zach shares insights from leading discovery for…

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Ep 83 - The Truth About Building Great Apps: Michael vs. Eric (Unfiltered)

In this episode of Tales from the Pros, hosts Michael Georgiou and Eric Lawrence have an unfiltered conversation about what actually makes great apps successful in today’s tech landscape. From overrated app features and startup mistakes to AI, user experience, and product strategy, the episode dives into the realities of building software that people genuinely want to use. Michael and Eric break…

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Ep 82 — Fixing Software Code Is Too Slow. Can AI Save Us?

In this episode of Tales from the Pros, hosts Michael Georgiou and Eric Lawrence are joined by Gal Vered, co-founder and CEO of Checksum AI, to break down one of the biggest bottlenecks in modern software development—fixing bugs and ensuring code quality in an AI-driven world. AI can now generate software faster than ever. You can build features, ship MVPs, and even spin up entire applications in…

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Ep 81 - How To Make Your Operations Flow With AI

In this episode of Tales from the Pros, hosts Michael Georgiou and Eric Lawrence are joined by Imaginovation’s co-founder and Head of Technology, Pete Peranzo, to break down how AI is actually impacting business operations and when it truly makes sense to implement it. AI is everywhere right now, but not every company needs it. Not every workflow benefits from it. And in some cases, adding AI can…

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Ep 80 - How to Turn an MVP into a Revenue Machine

In this episode of Tales from the Pros , hosts Michael Georgiou and Eric Lawrence break down what really happens after you launch a Minimum Viable Product (MVP). For many founders, launching an MVP feels like the finish line. In reality, it’s just the beginning. The real challenge lies in turning that early product into a scalable, revenue-generating business. Michael and Eric walk through the…

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Ep 79 - Building Products with AI: Hype, Reality, and What Actually Works

In this episode of Tales from the Pros, hosts Michael Georgiou and Eric Lawrence sit down with Imaginovation Chief Product Officer Zach Bruno to unpack one of the most talked-about topics in technology today: building products with AI. AI is everywhere right now. Startups are launching “AI-powered” products every day, founders believe they can build entire businesses with a single prompt, and…

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