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Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!

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325. The Spicy Episode! Our Fears About AI Science, The $500 Trail Shoe, Age Group Doping, Zone Compression Theory, and Hog Watch

We weren’t intending to have so many controversial stories this week, but here we are with some spicy topics on our hands. The main discussion was new research on Ethiopian athlete training, described as an “AI-assisted” study. The findings are cool, and we discuss those training points. But looking at the bigger picture, we have major fears about the use of AI writing across exercise physiology…

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324. Why Longer Intervals May Be Worse (Sometimes), Carb Totals in Cycling, US Champ Doping, and Squats for Endurance Athletes

We worked on our crawling economy before this great episode! The main training topic was a study on the “VO2 slow” component that may show why longer, harder intervals can actually be counterproductive for aerobic performance in some situations. At least, that’s our (biased) theory. We break it down! And this one was full of fun topics! Other topics: David’s surgery recovery, carb numbers in…

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323. The Theory of Zone Compression, Surgery (Oh No), What Comes Next, and The New Big Supplement!

We brought some big foot energy to this great episode! The main training topic was a discussion of “zone compression,” where harder efforts get sustainable for longer durations in weird and wild ways. Our theory: zone compression techniques are driving lots of training theory. We break it all down! Before that, the episode starts with David’s news that he’s going to get surgery on his foot. We…

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322. Why Exercise Physiology Wisdom Can Be Wrong, Doping in Ultrarunning, Bicarb in Long Races, and AI Controversy!

We excavated sand from sensitive places before this great episode! A main topic was a new study on cold water immersion, with surprising results that contrasted with the hypothesis of researchers and upended the conventional exercise physiology wisdom. We talked about why that offset might be important for how we think about big training and physiology questions. The word of the day is “nuance.”…

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321. Why Hydration Unlocks Endurance, A Creatine Experiment, Tour de France Takeaways, and Athletic Identity Crisis!

We got intellectually swole on creatine and astrology before this great episode! The main science topic was a study connecting carb oxidation to hydration status. We explain how hydration is the gateway to fueling. We also provided details of the first week of David’s creatine experiment. There is some very strange heart rate data that we’re tracking. Correlation or causation? We'll find out! And…

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320. Why POWER Makes Champions, The Key Downhill Cue, Overnight Drug Testing at Tour de France, What We’re Trying Now, and Adult Potty Training!

We learned way too much about toe weightlifting before this great episode! The main topic was a discussion of a difficult, nuanced topic: how to think about power development over time, and what that means in a messy athletic life. It all comes from a “Dear Younger Me” letter that David wrote to his 11-year-old self, and it extends forward to the performance revolution we’re seeing across…

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319. New Fueling Lessons from The Tour de France, Uphill Treadmill Threshold Theory, Prototype Shoe Ranting, The Hardrock 100, and Coaching Questions!

We spread our toes wider than nature intended before this great episode! A main topic was on the fueling evolution in the Tour de France, and how that has predicted everything that has happened across endurance sports. We also break down what fueling looked like in the 1990s from an old study! High carb is changing everything, and cycling is always the first mover on the next breakthrough. We also…

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318. Our Surprising Take on Carb Loading, Why Even 10 Minutes Counts, Exogenous Lactate Supplementation, and Cross Training Science!

We campaigned for the Nobel Prize in bodily functions before this great episode! A main topic was a new review study on cross training that found no difference between cross training and running interventions FOR RUNNING PERFORMANCE. That’s wild, and we use the result to zoom out to describe why we think most athletes should be doing some cross training. We also talked about a pair of studies on…

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317. HISTORY at Western States 100! A Full Breakdown. Plus High Carb Study and Questions!

The 2026 Western States 100 was astonishingly fast and uplifting! It was also astonishingly dramatic. This episode breaks it all down when it’s fresh in our minds. We talked the new course records and what it means to go for it in the modern era (and what it means to go for it in life). Other topics include the “death before DNF” mentality, brand battles, racing trends, and carbs in ultras. We…

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316. Why Western States 100 Records Are Getting Smashed, Z1 v. Z2 Training, AI Coaching News, and Competitiveness v. Ego!

It’s the best time of the year, and we brought that energy into this great episode! We started by bringing out our big predictions and hot takes for the Western States 100. The hottest take: everything about our understanding of endurance physiology is going to change on Saturday. We tell you why. We also talked about a new study asking a fascinating question: does the intensity of easy training…

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315. How Lower Carb Arguments Miss The Mark, Answering Bicarb Questions, Overload Weeks, and Heat Training!

We developed the ultimate AM wake-up hack (which we tell you about in the intro) before this great episode! A main science topic was a new paper on how the temperature in an athlete’s training location influences race performance. It tells a story about heat training generally that everyone needs to pay attention to. And guess what? A new journal article makes yet another argument against higher…

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