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Politics with Michelle Grattan

The Conversation's Chief Political Correspondent Michelle Grattan talks politics with politicians and experts, from Capital Hill.

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One Nation's David Farley on the migrants his party wants

Farley described One Nation's immigration target as more complex than its official 130,000 figure, estimating about 40,000 more 'rotating' migrants were also needed.

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Sally McManus on how AI could force future cuts to HECS debts and work hours

The outgoing union leader said that beyond the new Victorian royal commission, 'a lot more needs to be done' to fight corruption in construction Australia-wide.

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Bridie O'Donnell on the 'precarious business' of the Tour de France

The ex-champion cyclist turned commentator explains why heat is a growing risk to the annual summer event, and points to some Australian women to watch this weekend.

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Paul Kelly on why Albanese is 'misunderstood' and Taylor needs to stay

In more than 50 years of covering federal politics, The Australian's editor-at-large says he has 'never seen a crisis' like the one facing the Liberal Party today.

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Wayne Swan on a 'dramatically different' political contest

The outgoing Labor president explains why no votes can be taken for granted in a time of 'anxiety and insecurity'.

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Andrew Wilkie on the need to go harder to curb gambling advertising

Long-time gambling reform advocate Andrew Wilkie says a reason the government is being timid on the issue is because of close relationships with affected industries.

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Julian Leeser on fighting an 'explosion' of hate in Australia

The Liberal frontbencher is the opposition’s leading Jewish voice and will soon appear at the royal commission on antisemitism.

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Jenny McAllister on why NDIS reforms are being delayed

The NDIS minister joined the podcast to discuss the government's reforms – and what the changes mean for 160,000 Australians.

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Jonno Duniam on guilt and relief about quitting politics

The departing Liberal frontbencher also said it's 'mad' to be talking about doing deals with One Nation so far from an election. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode.

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Pollster Simon Welsh on One Nation's rise and Victoria's 'very messy' election

The pollster also warns any move to replace Victorian premier Jacinta Allan before the November state election would be a 'disaster' for Labor. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode.

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