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Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley, former Pentecostal pastor Kenny Burchard, and former Wesleyan Matt Swaim all came from very different theological backgrounds, but they all ended up finding a home in the Catholic Church. Each week, they take a look at a major issue or question they faced along the way, and share the series of events and discoveries that led them to embrace the Catholic faith.

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Clement of Rome, Part II - On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Episode 202

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on Clement of Rome, and what he tells us about early Christianity. Catholics don't merely refer to him as Clement of Rome; he's formally known as Pope St. Clement I. So what evidence do we have that Clement was acting with apostolic authority, and that those who received his letter recognized that authority? The Coming Home Network…

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Clement of Rome, Part I - On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Episode 201

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard each came from parts of the Evangelical world where faith in Jesus was strong, and love of the Bible ran deep, but knowledge of Church history wasn't particularly robust. And none of them gave much thought at all to Clement of Rome, who would have known the apostles and had a Christian leadership role in Rome in the era immediately following the…

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Our 200th Episode, and a Look Back... - On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny

A lot has happened since On the Journey launched back in April of 2020! In their 200th episode, Matt, Ken, and Kenny look back at how each of them got involved with the Coming Home Network, and give a bit of background into the development of the On the Journey podcast and its original stated mission: to share our stories in hopes of helping others like ourselves who are trying to understand the…

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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part XII: On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Ep. 199

Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley concludes his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him. In this episode, they finish their discussion of the prophecies of Jesus in Matthew 24, when the Lord foretells the destruction of the Temple, and the "end of the age." Many of these prophecies are seen by Dispensationalists…

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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part XI:On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Ep. 198

Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him. In this episode, they begin to unpack the prophecies of Jesus in Matthew 24, when the Lord warns his apostles of coming destruction and tragedy. So what was Jesus referring to? What did this mean for the Temple? And when…

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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part X: On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Ep. 197

Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him. Ken illustrates how the idea of the Rapture in Dispensationalist thought is part of a larger phenomenon within Dispensationalism of "double vision"; two new covenants, two distinct kingdoms of Israel and the Church, and even…

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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part IX: On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Ep. 196

Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him. Having built a Biblical and historical case against Dispensationalism over the past several episodes, Ken Hensley ties all the threads together to show how Jesus really did bring the Kingdom through his death, resurrection…

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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part VIII: On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Ep. 195

Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him. The Old Testament is filled with references to the Promised Land. So how do Jesus and the New Testament authors build on this idea? And what is the geographical territory that is meant to be under the reign of the Messiah?…

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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part VII: On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Ep. 194

Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him. A major theme in the story of God's chosen people Israel is the "Promised Land." Ken Hensley unpacks what was involved in that promise in the generations leading up to Jesus. Was that promise ever fulfilled, and if so, how…

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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part VI: On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Ep. 193

Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him. What do the prophecies of the Old Testament tell us about how God will dwell with his people in the New Covenant? What implications does this have for the Temple? And what do Jesus and the authors of the New Testament have…

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