AOC called it “woke 1.0” and cited a local official calling it “crazy”—and Deva Woodly, professor of political science at Brown University and a fellow at the Kettering Foundation, joins the show to push back. We discuss what AOC actually said about Francesca Hong and the political moment around 2020, why dismissing Black Lives Matter, #MeToo, and the Parkland gun-control movement as “crazy” cedes ground Democrats shouldn’t give up, and why politicians like AOC, Bernie Sanders, and Zohran Mamdani rarely credit the movements that helped get them elected.
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