# .NET Rocks! .NET Rocks! is an Internet Audio Talk Show for Microsoft .NET Developers. Page: Feed: --- ## [Beside, Inside, and Outside AI with Chad Michel](https://www.spreaker.com/episode/beside-inside-and-outside-ai-with-chad-michel--74357213) _2026-08-20 · dotnetrocks@franklins.net (Carl Franklin and Richard Campbell)_ What's the best way to interact with an LLM in applications? Carl and Richard talk to Chad Michel about the evolving user interface to large language models. Chad recalls Build 2023, where Technical Fellow Steven Batiche talked about LLMs starting out beside your application (like Copilot), but eventually moving inside, like Claude Cowork. Then Steven suggested that the ultimate destination is… [Listen](https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/74357213/dotnetrocks_2016_beside_inside_and_outside_ai.mp3) ## [OpenClaw with David Guttman](https://www.spreaker.com/episode/openclaw-with-david-guttman--73869045) _2026-08-12 · dotnetrocks@franklins.net (Carl Franklin and Richard Campbell)_ What can OpenClaw do for you? Carl and Richard talk to David Guttman about his work on OpenClaw, and helping others be successful with it.OpenClaw was one of the first personal agents released and has continued to evolve with the industry. David talks about controlling access to OpenClaw, and controlling what OpenClaw has access to. The challenge is managing prompt injection, and the agent can be… [Listen](https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/73869045/dotnetrocks_2015_openclaw.mp3) ## [Catching Up with Shawn Wildermuth](https://www.spreaker.com/episode/catching-up-with-shawn-wildermuth--73518382) _2026-08-05 · dotnetrocks@franklins.net (Carl Franklin and Richard Campbell)_ What's Shawn been up to lately? Carl and Richard chat with Shawn Wildermuth about his work in the Netherlands. Shawn talks about his last show on being a senior developer - and how much that has changed in the past two years. The role of large language models in software development has changed careers, but they're still fun. The conversation also dives into the role of Aspire to utilize the best… [Listen](https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/73518382/dotnetrocks_2014_catching_up_with_shawn_wildermuth.mp3) ## [Identity is Hard with Michele Bustamante](https://www.spreaker.com/episode/identity-is-hard-with-michele-bustamante--73249984) _2026-07-30 · dotnetrocks@franklins.net (Carl Franklin and Richard Campbell)_ Identity is hard, and getting harder! Carl and Richard talk to Michele Bustamante about the evolution of authentication and authorization in the current landscape. Michele talks about finding apps at clients that are still using older authentication strategies that are no longer secure - or are implemented incorrectly, so they were never secure! The conversation covers the array of tools available… [Listen](https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/73249984/dotnetrocks_2013_identity_is_hard.mp3) ## [Commercial Open Source Update with Jimmy Bogard](https://www.spreaker.com/episode/commercial-open-source-update-with-jimmy-bogard--73117162) _2026-07-23 · dotnetrocks@franklins.net (Carl Franklin and Richard Campbell)_ Last year Jimmy Bogard released commercial licensed versions of AutoMapper and Mediatr - how's it going? Carl and Richard chat with Jimmy about the decision to go commercial and what he's learned after a year. Making customer transactions is part of the process for sure, as is a new array of issues and ideas. But for the most part, Jimmy says it was the right decision and has been a good… [Listen](https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/73117162/dotnetrocks_2012_commercial_open_source_update.mp3) ## [The Role of AI in Testing with Debbie O'Brien](https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-role-of-ai-in-testing-with-debbie-o-brien--73010980) _2026-07-16 · dotnetrocks@franklins.net (Carl Franklin and Richard Campbell)_ How has testing changed in the era of AI? Carl and Richard talk to Debbie O'Brien in her new role at Zephyr about using LLMs to help build and validate tests - and much more. Debbie talks about joining Zephyr and using testing tools like Playwright to validate application workflows and generate documentation. This leads to a discussion about documentation being more important than ever, since LLMs… [Listen](https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/73010980/dotnetrocks_2011_the_role_of_ai_in_testing.mp3) ## [Open Source Maintenance Fee Update with Rob Mensching](https://www.spreaker.com/episode/open-source-maintenance-fee-update-with-rob-mensching--72876988) _2026-07-08 · dotnetrocks@franklins.net (Carl Franklin and Richard Campbell)_ The Open Source Maintenance Fee is more than a year old now - how are things going? Carl and Richard catch up with Rob Mensching to discuss the OSMF and its success in supporting Rob's WiX Toolset project. Rob talks about the key aspect of the OSMF - making it part of the licensing, so that it isn't optional. Of course, you can download the source from GitHub and compile it yourself without… [Listen](https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72876988/dotnetrocks_2010_open_source_maintenance_fee_update.mp3) ## [Azure Container Apps with Paul Yuknewicz and Jan Kalis](https://www.spreaker.com/episode/azure-container-apps-with-paul-yuknewicz-and-jan-kalis--72784941) _2026-07-02 · dotnetrocks@franklins.net (Carl Franklin and Richard Campbell)_ Have you checked out Azure Container Apps lately? Carl and Richard talk to Paul Yuknewicz and Jan Kalis about how they have sped up startup time with Container Apps using a feature called Express, and then on to the big news - Sandboxes. Sandboxes let you experiment with Azure Container Apps with managed identity to access Azure Connectors to all sorts of resources, both within Azure and outside… [Listen](https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72784941/dotnetrocks_2009_azure_container_apps.mp3) ## [DNSimple CLI with Anthony Eden](https://www.spreaker.com/episode/dnsimple-cli-with-anthony-eden--72679797) _2026-06-24 · dotnetrocks@franklins.net (Carl Franklin and Richard Campbell)_ DNSimple has a CLI! Carl and Richard talk to DNSimple CEO Anthony Eden about the evolution of the DNSimple CLI in today's software market. DNSimple provides DNS, domain registrar, and certificate services - so why does it need a CLI? Anthony talks about earlier experiments with CLIs for folks who didn't want to use the web interface. But today, large language models change the game and work best… [Listen](https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72679797/dotnetrocks_2008_dnsimple_cli_spreaker.mp3) ## [Try Before You Buy, Risk-Free (Sponsored)](https://crawlproof.com/a/ImDn9sVr9eRl) _2026-06-24 · **Sponsored**_ Free trial hosting plus refunds processed in 12-24 hours, guaranteed. ## [Data Centers in Space Geek Out](https://www.spreaker.com/episode/data-centers-in-space-geek-out--72559040) _2026-06-17 · dotnetrocks@franklins.net (Carl Franklin and Richard Campbell)_ Do data centers in space make any sense? Time for a rare summer-time Geek Out! Richard chats with Carl about all the hype surrounding building orbital data centers for AI workloads. Richard points out that enthusiasm for this idea surged in the fall of 2025, when the backlash against ground data centers peaked. But could you actually make the orbital data centers work? The conversation works… [Listen](https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72559040/dotnetrocks_2007_data_centers_in_space_geek_out.mp3)