Eliot reached out to me. He'd been watching Ben-Gvir flexing on the flotilla people and didn't know who to talk to about it. So he called the unusual Jew.
What followed was an hour of two minds that never quite touched. Eliot is a Hegelian absolutist. He thinks his words are not political programs but the real force logos of the world. I came in with something I call kitty morality, which is less flattering to both of us and which he spent the whole episode trying to escape.
We got into the IDF soldiers I met on vacation in Mexico. The question of how everybody can hate a man and he only grows stronger. Psalm 29 and the god it was originally written for. What Mossad would do with a high-human-capital diaspora if you read the situation through Lurianic Kabbalah. And the thing Eliot won't say out loud about why he left the left after October 7th.
He thinks people change their minds because the argument is true. I think there's a more embarrassing reason, and I named it. He disagreed.
Then the episode ended in a way that proved my entire point. You'll see.
The full conversation is above. The book is twenty dollars.
So tell me in the comments: what actually moved you last time you changed your mind about something that mattered? Be honest.
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