Managing Marketing is a weekly podcast hosted by the marketing subject matter experts at TrinityP3 Global Marketing Management Consultants. Each podcast is a conversation with a thought-leader, expert, professional or practitioner of marketing, media, advertising and communications on the issues, insights and opportunities in the marketing management category. Ideal for marketers, advertisers, media and commercial communications professionals. TrinityP3 is the leading global marketing management…
Vanessa Liell. Partner at boutique corporate advisory, Orizontas, discusses why bridging this divide between marketing and corporate communications is a critical leadership issue. Historically, marketing and corporate affairs were separated for sensible reasons. Marketing focused on reach and commercial outcomes, while corporate affairs managed risk, reputation, and stakeholder relationships. But…
Joe Carter, Strategic Agency Lead at brand tracking company Tracksuit, discusses how real-time brand tracking can revolutionize marketing strategies, improve agency-client collaboration, and drive long-term business growth. We often discuss how the agency pitch process is, in many ways, where strategy goes to die. Too often, the process is reduced to a "beauty parade" or a race to the bottom on…
Ben Gunn, co-founder and Chief Revenue Officer of Fabulate, and Director of Client Partnerships, Eliza Lewis discuss the opportunities and challenges and the need to think beyond communications alone when considering creator marketing for your brand and business. While many brands still treat creator marketing as an experimental line item or a subset of social media, the reality is that the…
Cat McGinn, industry commentator and the founder of Liminal and Co, joins Darren to discuss the structural problems with how the advertising industry is using artificial intelligence. While AI promises creative abundance and more originality, it is instead delivering creative convergence and more of the same. They explore why AI acts as a "stochastic parrot," predicting patterns based on past…
Nick Hand is the commercially savvy CFO and senior finance consultant at Trinity P3. He brings a rigorous financial perspective to the marketing landscape, advising both marketers and agencies on how to move beyond traditional cost-recovery models toward more sustainable, value-based relationships. They explore the fundamental shift from cost-based to value-based remuneration systems, a transition…
Nick Jackson is the CEO and co-founder of Artist Partners, and collaborates with Andrew Mote, the Principal and Founder of Mote Advisors on analysing and advising superannuation funds on meeting their fiduciary responsibilities when it comes to their marketing investment. The explore the complexities of marketing within the Australian superannuation industry, focusing on regulatory scrutiny,…
The Starcom Australia leadership team, CEO Matt Houltham, Chief Operating Officer, Louise Romeo, and Chief Client & Growth Officer Scott McCaffrey explore the evolving definition of a media agency partnership as AI continues to reshape the industry. As the marketing landscape faces "twin evil forces" of increasing uncertainty and growing complexity, the conversation dives into how agencies must…
Jarrod Allen, Associate Director, Strategic Media Solutions at .monks discusses the transformative impact of AI on marketing, particularly focusing on the shift from traditional SEO to generative engine optimization (GEO). He explores how AI is changing consumer behavior, the importance of understanding audience language, and the challenges marketers face in measuring success in this new…
Joel Kleber, CMO of Jim's Group, admits that he’s not a classically trained marketer. And thankfully is glad that he’s not. Otherwise he may never have achieved the commercial heights that he has if he was bogged down by process, frameworks and risk-averse thinking. Joel shares how he helped spearhead the explosive growth of Jim’s Group with their digital presence and franchise recruitment…
Amanda Connors, a seasoned marketer with a diverse career spanning retail, banking, and wellness. Amanda discusses the challenges and transformations in marketing, the importance of resilience, and the strategies she has employed to build successful brands. From her early days at Myer to her impactful role at Priceline and beyond, Amanda shares insights on customer obsession, community building,…
Ellie Angell goes undercover to delve into the complexities of the agency pitching process. She discusses the challenges faced by agencies, including emotional tolls, the role of procurement, and the importance of clear communication and feedback. The TrinityP3 State of the Pitch report has shone a light into the pitching process as it is practiced and revealed what many feel, but few could…
John Elbing, the author of 'Story Building: Your Brand from Their Standpoint”, explores the critical differences between storytelling and story building, emphasizing the importance of understanding the consumer's perspective. John shares insights on how effective storytelling can create emotional connections, enhance brand recognition, and drive consumer engagement. The conversation also delves…
Ahron Young, founder and CEO of Ticker News, to discuss the current state of journalism, the evolution of news media, and the challenges faced by modern journalists. Ahron shares his personal journey in journalism, from his early days as a cadet journalist to becoming a foreign correspondent and eventually launching Ticker News. The conversation delves into the impact of technology on journalism,…
Angela Tangas, the new Global Oliver CEO and The Brandtech Group’s Chief Strategy Officer, and Jack Smyth, Brandtech and Jellyfish’s Country Lead in Australia, discuss the transformative impact of agentic AI on marketing. We explore the definition of agentic AI, its applications in real-world marketing scenarios, and the benefits it brings to efficiency and decision-making. The conversation also…
Jon Wild shares his insights into how to create a growth engine for a business. From Pet Circle and Groupon, to Hotel Club, Unilever and O2 to name a few. He shares why and how he distills data to discover a true insight, creates focus for competitive advantage, and rallies resources and teams to run tests successfully at scale. Across all the Ps of true marketing. Jon emphasizes the need for…
Lydia Feely, General Manager and Kylie Ridler-Dutton, Senior Global Agency Consultant discuss the complexities and challenges faced by marketers in 2025, including the rise of AI, budget constraints, and the evolving role of procurement. The past year has been a roller coaster ride with holding company consolidations, the continued growth of the independent agencies, principal based media trading,…
In this special end-of-year episode of Managing Marketing, host Darren Woolley, Founder and CEO of Trinity P3 Marketing Management Consultancy, brings together a dozen of Trinity P3's subject matter experts to discuss the biggest issues and opportunities facing marketers and their agencies in the coming year, covering topics from pitching and data to finance, DEI, and environmental reporting.…
John Minty has more than two decades of agency operational experience as a CFO and COO both in the US and Australia for many of the major agency brands. In the 21st century the advertising agency landscape is rapidly changing. In-housing of agency functions by marketers, the impact of AI, particularly on production, the role of procurement on agency fees, the inability of the industry fee model to…
Natasha Aaron has extensive experience in developing and managing high-performance marketing teams across disrupted and rapidly growing retail, e-commerce, and food delivery businesses. Natasha talks about the evolving role of marketing leaders in today's fast-paced environment. She discuss the importance of curiosity, the need for clear communication and goal-setting, and the challenges of…
Dan Ferguson brings commercial rigour to any CMO role with a deep expertise in launching and growing ecommerce sales. He has helped transform Adore Beauty, Power Club, Vistaprint and OfficeWorks amongst others; and is a Board advisor with preezie, and NORA (the National Online Retailers Association). Dan shares his entrepreneurial wisdom and creativity in a conversation that delves into the…
Nathan Hodges, Managing Director of TrinityP3 ANZ discuss the complexities of agency rosters in the marketing landscape. He outlines the evolution of agency models, the impact of in-house agencies, and the importance of data-driven decision-making. Their conversation emphasizes the need for marketers to actively manage their agency relationships and adapt to the changing technological landscape,…
Abe Kasbo is the founder and CEO of Verasoni. An independent marketing communications advisory firm based in New Jersey. Abe discusses why he published his latest book, Irresponsibly Digital. He challenges mid market leaders to confront the unchecked excesses and missed opportunities of today’s digital-first landscape. Abe discusess the importance of accountability, understanding customer…
Ian Perrin, founder of Speed, talks about his journey in the marketing industry, the importance of differentiating indie agencies, and the impact of mental health initiatives like Keep Talking. He discuss the evolving landscape of in-housing versus outsourcing, the challenges and opportunities it presents, and the transformative role of AI in marketing. Ian also emphasizes the need for agencies to…
Darren Wallace, Executive General Manager at Bega Group, talks about the challenges and opportunities in managing iconic consumer packaged goods brands, particularly in the dairy sector. He discuss the importance of local ownership, the evolution of marketing strategies, navigating consumer trends, product development, distribution channels, pricing strategies, and advertising approaches. Darryn…
Michael Moszynski, the CEO of London Advertising and the recently appointed Chair of WONA Digital, talks about the evolving landscape of agency pitches, the impact of technology and procurement on the selection process, and the importance of human interaction in fostering successful client-agency relationships. Michael shares the challenges faced by agencies in a technology-driven environment, the…
Katie Dally is a seasoned marketing executive with experience on both the agency and client sides, most recently as the General Manager of Brand, Creative, and Operations at Endeavour Group. Katie shares her experience transitioning to from an agency leadership role to a client roles, exploring the cultural shifts and challenges faced this transition. She discusses the importance of understanding…
Kathryn Illy is a strategic and commercially driven executive leader with over 20 years’ experience in private and public sectors, including tourism, financial services, professional services, advisory, and advertising. Kathryn discuss the evolving landscape of marketing, highlighting the challenges and opportunities marketers face today. She shares the dichotomy of marketing being seen as both a…
Kim Russell, an award-winning marketing leader with extensive experience in the Quick Service Restaurant (QSR) sector. She talks about the competitive landscape of QSRs, her transition from agency to client-side marketing, and the unique challenges faced by brands in this industry. Kim shares insights on consumer behavior, the importance of authenticity, and the role of technology in enhancing…
Susie Shaw, APAC CEO, We Are Social and Paul Edwards, an advisor to We Are Social’s new reputation practice and Director at John Connolly and Partners, discusses the evolving landscape of corporate communication and reputation management. There was a time corporate reputations were managed by corporate communications, shaping messages for shareholders, government and the public. But then social…
Richard Benyon, CEO of the new SAAS start-up, Alliansis, discusses the importance of professional relationship management in marketing. He shares his experience developing relationship management technology and the role it plays in facilitating effective evaluations, the necessity of structured feedback, and the value of 360-degree feedback in understanding agency-client dynamics. They also touch…
Kimberly Palmer, the marketing manager at Bendigo Woollen Mills, Australia's largest manufacturer of hand knitting yarn. Kimberley, joined just over a year ago and shares her insights in transforming the marketing strategies of the company, focusing on customer engagement, brand storytelling, and community building. Despite economic challenges, Kimberly has achieved double-digit growth in…
Cheryl Sing, founder of an Australian charity called The Laptop Initiative, a charity focused on bridging the digital divide by providing laptops to those in need, including disadvantaged youth, refugees, and victims of domestic violence. Cheryl shares the origins of the initiative, the importance of technology access, and the impact of their campaigns. She was horrified to hear that there was…
Oksana Koriakova is a global marketing maverick; the Queen of Networking; and brings out-of-the-box thinking to every interaction. She is also the founder of Impero, and talks about the evolving landscape of branded merchandise and marketing strategies. Oksana shares her unique approach to engaging audiences through memorable presentations and the importance of creating meaningful connections with…
Jed Simpfendorfer is the Director of Strategy and a partner at T-Garage and the convener of the Melbourne Marketing Collective making him uniquely qualified as a strategist and researcher, plus he has the experience as a marketer working on some of the world’s most famous consumer package goods brands at both local and global levels. Jed attempts to answer the difficult question, “what do…
Julia Stretch, Fenn Aldred and Liam Jenkins are three of the leaders of Friends of Rhonda, a network set up to provide community and belonging to queer people in our industry. In a wide ranging and candid discussion, Ellie and the team discuss what it is to be queer in advertising, and in life; queer representation in advertising and film; allyship, and what it means; the important role that…
Lisa Overall, Managing Director of Creatalytics, a company that is closing the impact gap between media and message and maximising return on creative investment, discusses the intricate relationship between brand performance and creative optimization. She explains the role of creative analytics in enhancing media effectiveness, and the constraints that can drive creativity. In 1964, when Marshall…
Jeremy Taylor, Managing Director and Mark Smith, Business Director of TrinityP3 UK discusses the complexities and challenges of the pitch process in the advertising industry an explore the notion that while many believe the pitch process is broken, it may simply need to evolve to better suit the modern landscape of marketing and media. The conversation delves into the importance of chemistry in…
Stewart Gandolf, CEO of the Healthcare Success Agency discuss the significant impact of the Baby Boomer generation on healthcare, the shift from traditional healthcare to a focus on wellness, and the rise of vaccine skepticism. They explore the evolution of healthcare marketing, the challenges of public trust, and the importance of specialization in marketing strategies for healthcare providers.…
The Managing Marketing podcast is ten years old this week. In July 2015, the first episode went live, featuring a conversation between Darren Woolley and Shawn Callahan from Anecdote about the role of storytelling in advertising and marketing. Since then, hundreds of guests have appeared on the Managing Marketing podcast, sharing their stories in conversations with various TrinityP3 hosts. Some of…
Jacquie Alley is the Chief Operating Officer of Mediastore and the Chair of Independent Media Agencies Australia (IMAA). Margie Reid is the Chief Executive Officer of possibly the most talked-about agency in the market, Thinkerbell. Together, they represent two distinct paths to owning and managing an independent agency business. Jacquie worked in the family business, on and off, for much of her…
Kate Ferguson, CMO of the Sydney Children's Hospital Foundation, discusses the transformative strategies implemented at the Sydney Children's Hospital Foundation, focusing on integrated fundraising efforts, emotional storytelling, and innovative partnerships. She highlights the significant impact of their campaigns, the importance of connecting with donors through authentic narratives, and the…
Chloe Hooper, founder and CEO of Barefeet Consultancy discusses the importance of redefining business purpose and values, the journey of self-belief, and the significance of authenticity in both personal and professional realms. Chloe shares her transition from the agency landscape to consultancy, emphasizing the need for organizations to truly embody their values and the challenges of self-doubt…
Hilary Badger is the ECD at Leo Burnett Australia. Hilary and Ellie go on a conversational journey that takes in female creative leadership; our creative loves and pet peeves; the importance of diversity in marketing; the existential threat to our industry; our love of true creativity and why it should endure; the best use of AI to ensure that humans remain in the industry; and what clients and…
Darren O’Meara, Growth Director, and Troy Graham, Group Creative Director, experience marketing agency GPJ, also known as George P Johnson, share the state of play in the experience marketing industry. They explore how brands are shifting from traditional advertising to creating immersive experiences that engage customers on a deeper level. The conversation highlights the importance of…
In response to an increasingly vocal call from agencies around the world to ditch the pitch and trade media running headlines and opinion pieces claiming the pitch is broken and even dead, we launched The State of the Pitch Research in Australia in 2023. The second round of the State of the Pitch research was run in Australia between June and December last year. The report makes interesting…
Harry Lowes is the Director, ANZ Mid-Market, in the Global Business Group at Meta. After long stints at CommBank and Telstra in Australia and based in Singapore with Meta for the past 6 years, Harry discusses with Anton the big changes and exciting opportunities for marketers in an AI-fuelled landscape: speed and customisation at scale, better measurement techniques, and the evolving experiences…
Leandro Perez, Senior Vice President and CMO of Salesforce ANZ, has recently joined the board of the AANA and has been at Salesforce for over 10 years including the role of VP Corporate Messaging and Content. He talks with Anton about how humans are now working with AI agents to deliver better business, brand and customer experiences, and touches on some new ways of measuring quality and success,…
Three guests join to help navigate the marketing technological swamp, from TrinityP3, Dr Kate Gunby, Senior Consultant, Anton Buchner, Business Director and Adrian Treahy, Senior Consultant. There is no denying that technology continues to significantly disrupt business and particularly marketing, media and advertising. The explosion of digital advertising platforms, the rise of e-commerce,…
June Cheung is head of JAPAC at Scope 3, Public Benefit Corporation that focuses on decarbonizing media and advertising by providing a platform to visualize, measure, and reduce carbon emissions across the advertising ecosystem. But it is more than that. June shares the evolution of Scope3 from its foundation in 2022 with the aim to help the advertising industry reduce its carbon footprint, to…
Alex Myers is the Founder and CEO of Manifest Group, a leading B Corp certified brand communications agency with studios in London, Manchester, New York, Los Angeles, Stockholm and Melbourne. As an agency, Manifest is a driving force for better diversity, equality and inclusion in the creative industries which is powered by an all female managing partnership and creative director team globally.…
