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Lessons In Product Management

Path2Product's Mission is to bridge the gap in product management experience for aspiring product managers, so the Lessons In Product Management podcast is here to support that effort, as well as provide valuable insights to existing PMs and PM leaders.

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So What? Why? Who Cares? Why messaging matters in product management

In this episode of Lessons in Product Management , John sits down with product marketing leader and author Doug Kimball to discuss why messaging is one of the most overlooked drivers of product success. Drawing from Doug’s new book, So What? Why? Who Cares? , the conversation explores how product managers and product marketers can work together to create clearer, more compelling messaging that…

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New Season Intro! We're Back!

Episode Summary In this season premiere of Lessons in Product Management , John Fontenot introduces a new direction for the podcast - one focused on the intersection of artificial intelligence, product management, go-to-market strategy, product-market fit, and organizational alignment. While AI is transforming how products are built and launched, many organizations are discovering that faster…

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How Metalab does design-led product management with Megan O'Rourke - Head of Product @ Metalab

I’m joined by Megan, Executive Director of Product Management at MetaLab, who brings nearly a decade of experience working across dozens of products and teams. In this conversation, we cut through the noise and get to the fundamentals: alignment, communication, prioritization, problem-solving, and understanding users at a deep level. If you’ve ever wondered what truly defines great product…

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How Klaviyo is Redefining B2C CRM, Services, and AI with Grant Deken, Head of Product of Klaviyo Services

🎙️ Episode Title: How Klaviyo is Redefining B2C CRM, Services, and AI with Grant Deken 🧑‍💼 Guest: Grant Deken – Head of Product, Klaviyo Services 📅 Episode Overview: In this episode of Lessons in Product Management , host John Fontenot sits down with Grant Deken , Head of Product at Klaviyo Services, to explore how Klaviyo is reimagining customer relationships in the B2C space. From the…

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How to stop Sales from selling vaporware

🎙 Episode Summary Host: John Fontenot Topic: How to stop sales teams from selling vaporware (promising unbuilt features) 💡 Core Problem Sales teams often promise features that don't yet exist (a.k.a. vaporware) to close deals. This creates chaos for product and engineering, derails the roadmap, and sets poor expectations with customers. 🧩 Why It Happens Lack of vision and strategy at the…

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Upleveling your PM career w/ Shobhit Chugh - CEO of Intentional Product Manager

In this episode, Shobhit Chugh, former Google PM and founder of Intentional Product Manager , shares practical strategies for moving beyond execution and becoming a standout product leader—even when you don’t have formal authority or a supportive manager. 🔑 Key Takeaways 1. Don’t Mistake Productivity for Progress Just being busy doesn’t mean you’re growing. Like Amazon’s press release approach,…

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Bridging the Gap Between Product Management & Product Marketing with Daria Love, Director of Product Marketing at the Trans.eu Group

🔑 Summary: In this insightful conversation, Daria Love unpacks the often-blurred boundaries between product marketing and product management. She shares practical frameworks for collaboration, the importance of go-to-market (GTM) roadmaps, and how product managers and marketers can set each other (and the product) up for success. The episode is packed with strategic and tactical takeaways for PMs…

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How AI is impacting the PM role w/ Irene Yu - Founder & CEO of Skiplevel

🎙️ Guest : Irene Yu Founder & CEO of SkipLevel – a company helping PMs become more technical without needing to code. Skiplevel article on how AI is changing the PM role 🔑 Key Topics & Timestamps [00:00 - 02:25] Irene's Background Irene shares her transition from software engineer to starting SkipLevel. [02:26 - 04:45] Identifying the Technical Gaps Her early software development experience…

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Becoming a T-Shaped Product Manager

Summary: In this episode of Lessons in Product Management , John discusses the importance of developing into a T-shaped product manager — someone who has deep expertise in one area but broad knowledge across many disciplines. He explains how the expectations of PMs are evolving, particularly with the rise of generative AI, and gives tactical advice on building a career growth roadmap. Timestamps:…

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How PMs Can Improve Working & Communicating with Engineers w/ Paul Lunow, Head of Technology and Innovation at XU Sustainable

Lessons in Product Management - Working & Communicating with Engineers Guest: Paul Lunow Host: John Doe Episode Duration: ~28 min [00:00 - 01:37] Introduction John welcomes Paul Lunow to the podcast. Paul previously hosted John on Product and Cake . Background on Paul’s 20-year career in tech. [01:37 - 04:05] Paul’s Background in Product & Engineering Started in Berlin as a web developer, grew an…

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