
Leading in the Gospel
Every month, Leading in the Gospel will feature an ongoing conversation with spiritual leaders for spiritual leaders. The goal is growth in Gospel-shaped leadership and a Gospel identity. The conversations will be personal, practical, theological, and focused on mentoring the next generation’s spiritual leaders in declaring and displaying the gospel.
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Episode 98: Returning to Core Gospel Values in Ministry
What keeps a ministry healthy for the long haul? It starts by returning to what matters most. In this episode of the Leading in the Gospel podcast, we explore "Returning to Core Gospel Values in Ministry "—why every leader, ministry, and church must continually realign with the unchanging truth of the Gospel. Be encouraged, challenged, and equipped to lead with Christ at the center. 🎧 Listen…

Episode 97: How to Lead in Gospel-Shaped Confrontations (Part 2)
Cary Schmidt and Kurt Skelly continue their conversation on gospel-shaped confrontation, walking through practical, biblical wisdom for handling hard conversations with grace, truth, and emotional maturity.

Episode 96: How to Lead in Gospel-Shaped Confrontations (Part 1)
Cary and Kurt tackle the tough topic most leaders avoid: confrontation. They outline nine “pre-conversation” practices that keep hard talks redemptive, not explosive. As pastors, the aim is always gentle, truthful, Spirit-led conversations that restore people and protect the health of the whole church.

Episode 95: Romans 9, The Gospel, Grace, God’s True Story
In this episode, Cary sits down with author Jonathan Williams to unpack one of the most debated and misunderstood passages in the Bible. See how Romans 9 must be read as part of God’s unfolding story: that His Word has not failed, His promises remain, and His heart is for all people. They highlight the dangers of misinterpreting Romans 9, the beauty of God’s consistent faithfulness, and the call…

Episode 94: Thoughts on Conducting a Gospel Invitation
Cary and Andrew discuss practical and biblical ways to extend gospel invitations in church services—avoiding both manipulation and neglect—so that unbelievers consistently have a clear opportunity to respond to Christ.

Episode 93: Feeling Overwhelmed in Gospel Ministry
Cary and Andrew get real about feeling overwhelmed in ministry! Together the name the internal and external causes and outline a gospel-shaped path forward built on identity in Christ, biblical (not escapist) optimism, and practical steps like honest review, wise counsel, and shared load.

Episode 92: Healthy Bivocational Gospel Ministry
Cary Schmidt sits down with Ethan Malachuk, pastor of Mount Greylock Baptist Church in MA, for a long-awaited conversation about bivocational ministry. Ethan shares his journey of pastoring while working in the secular world, reflecting on the unexpected blessings, challenges, and spiritual growth that come with this path. Drawing from biblical examples—particularly Paul’s ministry in Corinth,…

Episode 91: Growing in Gospel Application
Cary Schmidt is joined by Andrew Browning to discuss the often-overlooked tension between faithfully explaining the Bible and helping people apply it meaningfully to their lives. They explore what it means to grow in gospel-shaped application—not just giving listeners a to-do list, but pointing them to the Person and work of Jesus as the true source of lasting transformation. Through honest…

Episode 90: Getting Ghosted in Gospel Ministry (Part 2)
In Part 2, Cary and Kurt continue their conversation on relational loss in ministry, this time focusing on gospel-shaped responses. Drawing from David’s experience with Saul, they discuss how to process betrayal, walk through grief, and move forward in faith. They encourage pastors and ministry leaders to respond with grace, forgive without expecting anything in return, and trust God’s sovereign…
