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Civil Discourse with Joyce Vance · Aug 20, 2026

The Legal Latest with Joyce Vance and Katie Phang

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All the Epstein Things

In an absolute first for me, Katie Phang and I got together to discuss the latest legal developments with y’all while I was on a layover in between flights in the Atlanta airport. Much to our surprise, the technology worked without a hitch, and it was a good thing, because there’s a lot to discuss this morning. Most of it centered around the Justice Department’s sketchy conduct in cases connected to the president’s political agenda, which is increasingly causing courts to call whether they can trust DOJ into question.

If you missed us live, this is a great, quick conversation to get you caught up on recent developments. And Katie and I assess the big picture significance of the administration’s failure to turn over documents related to Epstein and what we suspect lurks behind that.

We’re in this together,

Joyce

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