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Inclusion Catalyst

Welcome to Inclusion Catalyst, with your host Mickey Desai. We bring diversity leaders to the table to hear about current issues in diversity and inclusion, deconstructing complex social justice issues to showcase the best practices in our workplaces and our communities.

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You Are the Tool, with Rebecca Eldgredge

What’s really at stake when you ignore your nervous system? In this follow-up episode of Inclusion Catalyst , host Mickey Desai continues his conversation with Dr. Rebecca Eldredge, diving deeper into the real-world consequences of dysregulation—on our relationships, our communication, and our ability to lead meaningful change. From subtle shifts in tone and perception to breakdowns in connection…

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The Cost of Caring, with Rebecca Eldridge

What happens when the people working hardest to make the world better begin to lose themselves in the process? In this episode of Inclusion Catalyst , host Mickey Desai sits down with licensed psychologist Dr. Rebecca Eldredge —founder of @ Feel Deeply, Live Completely —to explore the hidden toll of advocacy, leadership, and social change work. From burnout and compassion fatigue to the subtle…

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Getting in Line: Rethinking DEI, Meritocracy, and Misconceptions

Host Mickey Desai sits down with Su Joun, principal of Diversity at Workplace Consulting Group , to unpack the realities and misconceptions surrounding diversity, equity, and inclusion. Su reframes DEI not as a system of preferential treatment, but as a deliberate effort to remove barriers that prevent qualified individuals from accessing opportunity. Through practical examples and candid…

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The Literacy Crisis We Can’t Ignore

This episode is produced in partnership with the Georgia Interfaith Public Policy Center . Host Mickey Desai sits down with children’s author and entrepreneur Tiffany Obeng, founder of Sugar Cookie Books, to explore a powerful and often overlooked truth: inclusion in the workforce doesn’t begin in college or even high school—it begins with literacy in early childhood. Tiffany shares her…

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“Secrets of the Killing State” with Corinna Lain

In this powerful episode, Inclusion Catalyst sits down with Professor Corinna Lain, legal scholar and author of the forthcoming book Secrets of the Killing State , to examine the realities behind lethal injection in the United States. Lain’s work exposes a system shrouded in secrecy, built on medical misconception, and sustained by public misunderstanding. Corinna Lain’s research confronts the…

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Charles Gibson: Building Belonging on College Campuses

Charles Gibson is the Chief Engagement and Belonging Officer at Randolph College . He visits the Inclusion Catalyst to talk about fostering a culture of belongingness and home for Randolph Students. Key Takeaways Engagement and belonging work aims to make everyone feel at home on campus, focusing on authentic self-expression and learning from differences Private colleges have more latitude in DEI…

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Nadia Mian: Catalyzing Faith-Based Affordable Housing

Nadia Mian is the Senior Program Director at the Ralph W. Voorhees Center for Civic Engagement at Rutgers University. She visits the Inclusion Catalyst to discuss a very innovative faith-based housing initiative. Key Takeaways Dr. Mian is leading research on faith-based affordable housing, including a database of congregational housing projects across the U.S. California's SB4 legislation allows…

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Theresa Lau: Exposing the Harmful Cuts in the 'Big, Beautiful' Budget Bill

Theresa Lau, Senior Policy Counsel, Eradicating Poverty at the Southern Poverty Law Center , visits with Mickey again to discuss the proposed federal budget cuts and their potential impacts on social programs and states. The budget bill passed by the House contains massive tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations, while making deep cuts to social safety net programs like Medicaid and SNAP that…

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Federal Budget Cuts & Social Program Impact: Teresa Lau

Theresa Lau is Senior Policy Counsel, Eradicating Poverty at the Southern Poverty Law Center . Theresa and Mickey discuss the proposed federal budget cuts and their potential impacts on social programs and states. Key Takeaways Proposed budget includes hundreds of billions in cuts to critical human needs programs like Medicaid and SNAP Cuts aim to fund tax breaks for corporations and wealthy…

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SB-17 Is Changing The Nonprofit Landscape

Dr. Johanna Moya Fábregas visits the SnapCast. Dr. Fábregas is the Executive Director of Con Mi MADRE , a nonprofit dedicated to empowering Latina girls and their loved ones through education and emotional support. We talk about Texas State Bill-Seventeen, which is known informally as “the anti-DEI law,” shutting down diversity, equity and inclusion offices like university LGBTQ+ centers. Among…

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