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Reimagining the future through systems change | Episode 16
What happens after the systems map is complete? An increasing number of organizations understand the value of engaging with complexity, but the challenge comes when, after doing systems analysis, people fall back into the usual plan-control-implement-measure approach. Treating complexity as if it were just... "complicated". In this episode, Jeff Mohr speaks with Viliana Dzhartova, co-founder of…
What if the real problem isn’t what we think it is? When simple solutions don’t actually move the needle, it’s often a sign we’re treating symptoms, not systems. In this episode, Jeff Mohr talks with Matt Healey, founder of First Person Consulting, about how systems thinking and evaluation can help us move beyond surface-level problems. They explore: The difference between program evaluation and…
Creating new patterns for learning and leading | Episode 14
What patterns are shaping how we learn, lead, and live, and how might we begin to shift them? In this week’s episode, we’re joined by Jessica Kiessel from (Re)Patterning Lab. Jessica stewards spaces and builds infrastructure to support the learning, creativity, and shapeshifting needed to live into the patterns we hope to see in the world, both for individuals as well as inside organizations. Tune…
The way of the forest: Supporting ecosystems with a nature-inspired lens | Episode 13
In this episode we’re joined by Santiago Bunce, founder of Via Bosque, a company that helps clients achieve transformative change by integrating leadership tools with nature-inspired principles. Santiago shares his unique perspective on building ecosystems and how it can be applied across different contexts to create positive, lasting change. Tune in for a deep dive into: Designing ecosystems…
Uncovering networks & the future of AI in research | Episode 12
After a long hiatus, we're excited to return and bring you the voices of those tackling tough problems! In this episode, Kumu Founder and CEO Jeff Mohr sits down with Cassandra Gould van Praag, Senior Community Manager at The Alan Turing Institute. Cassandra plays a key role in fostering and growing a dynamic community of researchers, practitioners, and enthusiasts. She recently launched a…
Cultivating energy for systems change | Episode 11
This week we’re joined by Chris Block, who is currently the Chronic Homelessness Initiative Director at Tipping Point Foundation. Previously he was the CEO of American Leadership Forum, Silicon Valley, as well as a number of other roles all really in the thick of it, as a systems leader working on systems change. I think you’ll find he has a fascinating background, with lots of insights to share,…
This week we are joined by Gene Bellinger. Gene is one of the most prolific systems thinkers, an early founder of Systems Thinking World, and one of the earliest and most influential evangelists of Kumu (there are a number of features that you should be thanking Gene for). In this episode we explore Gene's path to systems thinking, what it takes to do it well, and why he so rarely uses that term…
The case for smaller, more humble systemic interventions | Episode 9
This week we’re joined with Odin Mühlenbein who is a partner at Ashoka Germany and also a lead of the systems unit at Ashoka Globalizer . He’s also the co-author of a recent report, From Small to Systemic which looks at the multi-billion euro potential in social innovation. Head over to the In Too Deep blog for the full transcript .
This week we're joined by June Holley, who is a longtime network weaver and author of The Network Weaving Handbook. She's spent much of her career working with communities, often times low-income communities, on complex issues, taking both a systems and a network lens informed by complexity principles. In this conversation we touch on lots of different topics from the basics of how do you collect…
Discovering our common humanity through participatory mapping and collective impact | Episode 7
This week we have longtime community member Aldo de Moor joining us. Some of you may remember him from one of our original podcasts . Since we last spoke with Aldo, he's been busy refining his CommunitySensor participatory methodology with communities across the globe. In this episode we catch up with Aldo to learn about how his approach has evolved, what he's learning about how to engage…