An interesting recent interview with John Gillam

I thought this was a magical interview - even more than usual....thank you, Iain, and John. I have shared it widely!

I was surprised by the sense of relief I felt, a great sigh, when John said at the end about how 'Our civilisation is in ruins...', for I felt all the years of 'efforting' to stop it falling could drop away and all that energy could go into the re-building, instead of being shared twixt the two. Now for the how of the re-build - the one from the heart - which might weave its way through the myriad seriously dodgy ones being pushed now.....

Thank you for your remarkable work. Everyday has 'an Iain moment' - you tube, book, Substack, and repeat. You keep me sane, honestly you do. 🙏