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How Did They Get There

"For a decade, How Did They Get There has been a space where artists and filmmakers reflect on their work, their relationships, and their search for meaning. Hosted by Dr. Penn (Jon Penn Junejo, DNP-BC), a Columbia-trained psychiatry provider, the show brings together creativity and mental health in unfiltered, existential conversation."

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Ep. 70 – Katie McQuerrey on De Gaulle: Résistance, Inside Llewyn Davis and Jessica Chastain

Editor Katie McQuerrey has collaborated with Joel and Ethan Coen on several significant films over the past 25 years, including Intolerable Cruelty, No Country for Old Men, A Serious Man, True Grit, and Inside Llewyn Davis. Their partnership began during the Coens' transition from film to digital – a period that also saw major changes to their editing process and suite. Katie’s work transcends a…

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Ep. 69 – John Stewart Muller on Fling, Mira Sorvino and Trent Reznor

John Stewart Muller directs films that explore themes of commitment, abandonment, unrequited love, obsession, and emotional emptiness through psychologically complex characters. The son of the noted creative and graphic designer of the same name, John moved to Los Angeles following his upbringing in Kansas City to pursue writing, directing, and producing after studying at Loyola Marymount…

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Ep. 68 – Basic Vocab on Power Book III: Raising Kanan, The General Dynamic and Thundercat

Hip hop group Basic Vocab's trajectory shifted rapidly when their signature track, "Come Get With It," was discovered by HBO and featured during the closing credits of Season 5 of Entourage. In doing so, they joined artists such as Saigon, Gang Starr, Alice Smith, Outkast, Radiohead, and Jay-Z, whose music was also featured during the series' end credits. The track appeared on their debut album,…

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Ep. 67 - Jared Isaac on An Autumn Summer, Spike Lee and Joe Swanberg

Filmmaker Jared Isaac’s debut feature, An Autumn Summer, is currently in theatrical release in select cities ahead of its digital release on June 9 on Apple TV and all major VOD platforms, including Vudu and Fandango at Home. Recently featured in Deadline, the coming-of-age romance stars Sing Street and Wayne actor Mark McKenna alongside Shrinking breakout Lukita Maxwell, who also stars in A24’s…

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Ep. 66 - Laura Veirs on Temple Songs, Flying into Darkness and Sufjan Stevens

Laura Veirs crafts musical portraits shaped by daily life, family, and the broader dynamics she encounters through international touring, the record business, and motherhood. Her 15th studio album, Temple Songs, arrives August 14 and features the single “Flying Into Darkness,” which she describes as joyous, “but also dark.” Veirs’ musical path has been marked by constant evolution: while studying…

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Ep. 65 - Cara Ronzetti on Group: The Schopenhauer Effect, Alexis Lloyd and Emotional Vulnerability

Actor and filmmaker Cara Ronzetti brings a striking sense of human intensity to her performance in Group: The Schopenhauer Effect, now in theatrical release, continuing her work from seasons 1 and 2 of the web series. Her portrayal of Tilda carries a raw authenticity that continually shifts the group dynamic, blurring the line between fiction and reality and sparking curiosity about what her…

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Ep. 64 - Alexis Lloyd on Group: The Schopenhauer Effect, 30 Beats and Thomas Sadoski

Filmmaker Alexis Lloyd has made a distinctive impact on contemporary cinema with Group: The Schopenhauer Effect , currently in its theatrical run at The Quad Cinema in Greenwich Village, NYC. The film draws deeply from his upbringing immersed in psychiatry and psychoanalysis, blending that foundation with his passion for storytelling. Conceived as a prequel to his acclaimed, eponymous YouTube web…

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Ep. 63 - Tom Epperson on Baby Hawk, A Family Thing and The Gift

Trying to pigeonhole Tom Epperson into a single category is impossible—and that’s part of what makes his career so compelling. His path as a novelist and screenwriter has been anything but linear, weaving through genres and mediums with equal parts grit and curiosity. He knew early on that writing would be his life’s work, and meeting lifelong friend and collaborator Billy Bob Thornton during…

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Ep. 62 - Philip Andelman on Khruangbin, Lenny Kravitz and Waiting on the World to Change

Philip Andelman’s inspired take on the language and rhythm of music videos has impacted the medium in countless ways. The results are evident in his collaborations with contemporary artists, including Usher, Melissa Etheridge, Ludacris, Maxwell, d4vd, James Bay and Taylor Swift. Formative experiences with Annie Leibowitz launched his entry-point into photography. After NYU, continued experiential…

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Ep. 61 - Nabil Elderkin on Gully, The People and Kendrick Lamar

Director Nabil Elderkin shoots music videos and films governed by vision, collaboration and diversity. While thematic similarities connect the dots between his projects, each video is different and a product of the stellar combination of the right artist, the right lighting, and maybe most importantly - the right feel. Growing up in a multi-cultural sphere, dictated by several international moves,…

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