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The You World Order Showcase · Aug 7, 2026

Why People Join Your Skool Community and Then Go Quiet

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Jill Hart | World Changer, Kerrie Wearing - Mystic Tea ☕, Rev. Evelyn Bourne (Ambilike) · The You World Order Showcase

Getting someone to join your community is not the finish line.

It may not even be the hardest part.

For coaches, creators, and spiritual entrepreneurs building communities around their work, one of the most frustrating patterns looks like this:

Someone discovers you.

They visit your Skool About page.

They join.

And then they disappear.

No introduction.

No comments.

No classroom progress.

No meaningful relationship.

And eventually, no path toward becoming a client.

During this week’s Monetize Your Mission Mastermind, John Missikos of Leverage Lab joined us from Australia to explore why this happens and how community owners can begin fixing it.

John approaches the problem differently from many marketers.

He comes from engineering.

His basic philosophy is simple:

Measure the number. Make an adjustment. Measure it again.

That mindset can change how you look at community growth.

Most community owners know something isn’t working long before they know exactly what it is.

Maybe people aren’t joining.

Maybe they’re joining but never participating.

Maybe the community feels active but no one is moving toward your offers.

Those are different problems.

They require different solutions.

John separated the early community journey into two important issues:

Attract.

Can you get the right people through the door?

Activate.

Once they’re inside, can you get them to take a meaningful action?

Trying to solve an activation problem with more traffic will not necessarily help.

Trying to solve a traffic problem by posting more inside your community will not necessarily help either.

The first job is figuring out where the journey is breaking.

If people are not joining, John recommends looking at two basic numbers:

Your traffic volume.

And your About-page conversion rate.

During the conversation, John shared benchmarks he uses of roughly 4 percent conversion for paid communities and 20 percent for free or freemium communities.

Those aren’t guarantees.

They are reference points.

More importantly, they give you something measurable.

If plenty of people reach your About page and very few join, the page may deserve attention.

If your conversion is healthy but almost nobody reaches the page, changing your headline twenty-seven times probably isn’t the highest-leverage move.

You need traffic.

That distinction alone can save a community owner an enormous amount of unnecessary work.

One of the most interesting parts of our conversation came from John’s analysis of more than 300 About pages.

You might expect the best-performing communities to share a secret formula.

They didn’t.

John compared communities appearing toward the top of Discovery with those appearing much lower.

There was tremendous variation.

His conclusion was essentially that there is no single About-page formula you can blindly copy.

Your community is different.

Your audience is different.

And the person running it is different.

The answer is testing.

Make a change.

Measure it.

Learn.

Repeat.

That may sound less exciting than discovering the perfect template.

It is also much more useful.

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This led us into a conversation about niche communities.

There is a constant fear among coaches and creators that narrowing their positioning will leave them with too small an audience.

But specificity can create clarity.

When someone discovers a community that solves the exact problem they have, they no longer need to choose among fifty vaguely similar alternatives.

They may have found the person for them.

And the niche is not only the topic.

You are part of the positioning.

John brings an engineering brain to community building.

Someone else might approach the same problem intuitively.

Another person might be highly visual.

Another might build around spiritual practice.

The subject can overlap while the audience connection remains completely different.

Your way of seeing the world matters.

Getting people through the door was only half of the conversation.

The other challenge raised repeatedly was:

They join, but then they go quiet.

This is where John’s activation strategy becomes especially useful.

Many of us build onboarding the way we build grocery lists.

Welcome!

Now:

Introduce yourself.

Upload a profile photo.

Read the rules.

Watch this video.

Visit the classroom.

Download this PDF.

Tell us your goals.

Comment on three posts.

Attend Tuesday’s call.

Complete Module One.

By the time we’ve finished helping them, they’re exhausted.

John suggested something much smaller.

Give them one action.

Not four actions.

Not an onboarding scavenger hunt.

One.

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A poll can work.

A one-word answer can work.

A quick comment can work.

The point is not that their first action has to transform their business.

The point is movement.

John described how his own onboarding originally asked members to complete several tasks, including taking a photograph of their desk.

Each additional request created another decision.

Another bit of friction.

Another reason to think, “I’ll come back and do that later.”

Later often becomes never.

A tiny action changes the experience.

The member participates.

They have crossed the invisible line between observing the community and being part of it.

That’s activation.

Automation can be useful.

It can also become invisible.

John compared generic automated communication to banner blindness in advertising.

People learn to recognize patterns.

They know what a mass-generated welcome message feels like.

That doesn’t mean you need to personally write a novel to every person who joins.

It means context matters.

One of the best examples in the conversation came from Kerrie Wearing.

Kerrie had changed her onboarding so that the first ask was smaller. Then, several days later, she went back to a member’s original answers and personally referenced something the person had told her.

The response changed.

Why?

Because the conversation wasn’t:

“Hi, how are you enjoying the group?”

It was about that person’s actual life and actual challenge.

They felt seen.

That connection made it easier for the member to participate publicly later.

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John pointed out another way to make this practical.

Look at the questions people answer when they request to join your community.

Those answers can give you the context for your next conversation.

Instead of collecting information because Skool lets you create membership questions, design those questions intentionally.

Ask something that helps you understand why the person is there.

Then use the answer.

For a coach, that might be the transformation they’re working toward.

For a creator, it might be where visibility is breaking down.

For a meditation community, it might be the obstacle preventing consistency.

For a stitching community, it might be what the member hopes the practice will give them.

Now your follow-up can become personal without becoming complicated.

Activation becomes even stronger when members have a reason to return.

We explored that idea using Rev. Evelyn Bourne’s intuitive stitching community.

Evelyn has a daily stitching practice. She adds to an eight-foot piece of cloth every day and often shares an image of that day’s work.

The community opportunity became obvious during the conversation.

What if members had their own tiny daily win?

Post today’s stitching progress.

Share a photo.

Add a few words.

Done.

That works because the activity is connected to the reason people joined.

It isn’t engagement for engagement’s sake.

It reinforces the transformation.

This is an important distinction.

A random “What’s everyone having for breakfast?” post might get comments.

That doesn’t necessarily strengthen your community.

The strongest participation rituals help members become the person they entered the community to become.

A useful recurring action can eventually become part of someone’s routine.

Inside The You World Order, our Notes Boost thread works this way.

People know it’s there.

They share their Substack Notes.

They support other writers.

And the action gives them something they already want: more visibility.

The community interaction is attached to an outcome.

Once a useful activity happens consistently, members know what to expect.

They don’t have to rediscover how to participate every day.

That predictability matters.

Evelyn also shared that YouTube had suddenly begun sending people into her community.

Instead of assuming why, the next question became:

Which video did you watch that made you want to join?

That one question can reveal an enormous amount.

Maybe the video you think is converting people isn’t the one doing it.

Maybe people are interested in something you considered secondary.

In Evelyn’s case, another creator told her he enjoyed the almost-ASMR quality of watching and hearing the stitching itself.

That sensory, meditative element may be part of what makes her content distinct.

The audience often notices the value before we have language for it.

Ask them.

One of the most useful things a community owner can learn is when to stop guessing.

Talk to people.

Watch what they respond to.

Notice what they ignore.

Ask what brought them in.

Ask what they’re working toward.

Ask what gets in the way.

Then listen.

Sometimes the community you originally imagined is not exactly the community your audience wants.

That isn’t failure.

It’s information.

Don’t be afraid to pivot.

A lively community is wonderful.

But for a mission-based entrepreneur, sustainability matters too.

Your business cannot run indefinitely on generosity alone.

Visibility needs somewhere to lead.

Community participation needs somewhere to lead.

For some members, the free community will be enough.

Others will want deeper help.

That is where your offer becomes part of the member journey rather than an interruption to it.

The point is not to pressure every community member into buying something.

The point is to make the next step visible for the person who is ready.

Mission-based income allows you to keep doing the work.

John’s engineering philosophy may be the simplest framework from the entire conversation.

Don’t rebuild your entire business because a number looks wrong.

Find the leak.

If people aren’t reaching your community, work on traffic.

If people reach the About page but don’t join, work on conversion.

If they join and disappear, work on activation.

If they’re active but never progress toward your offer, examine the monetization path.

Then change something small enough that you can understand the result.

Measure.

Adjust.

Measure again.

There is no universal perfect Skool community.

There is only the experience you’re creating for the people you’re here to serve.

And sometimes the next breakthrough begins with one very small action.

Being visible is not the same as consistently attracting aligned clients.

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With love & clarity,
Jill Hart💜The Coach’s Alchemist

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