In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Mark and Andy are joined by Dr. Chris Crain, Executive Director of the Birmingham Metro Baptist Association, for a conversation about conflict in the church—especially during high-stress seasons like Christmas (recorded just before Christmas 2025). Chris explains common times when conflict is more likely to surface, including busy church-calendar…
In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, hosts Mark and Andy discuss the importance of slowing down in ministry. They emphasize the need for church leaders to reduce their hurried pace to foster deeper relationships and better spiritual health. Andy & Mark share personal experiences, discuss the challenge of balancing tasks, and reflect on how Jesus' unhurried life serves as a model. The…
In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Mark and Andy welcome their good friend Dr. Robert Mullins. Robert, who serves as the Executive Director for the Madison Baptist Association, discusses his journey from local church pastor to leading an association of pastors. The conversation delves into the importance of intentionality, community, and disciple-making within pastoral leadership.…
In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, hosts Mark Gainey and Andy Frazier welcome Jay Gordon, the Small Groups Pastor at Brook Hills. Jay shares invaluable insights on where he has seen God at work, and offers practical advice on fostering meaningful relationships and discipleship within small groups. Listen in as Jay discusses the challenges and shifts in small group dynamics…
In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Andy & Mark discuss the unique concept of developing and enlisting volunteer staff members within the church. They explore how to empower volunteers to assume key leadership roles without financial compensation. The discussion includes practical tips for identifying, recruiting, and developing these volunteers, while maintaining a healthy balance…
In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, hosts Mark Gainey and Andy Frazier discuss the importance of finding joy in ministry, regardless of the size or context of your church. They emphasize celebrating small wins and creating a culture of joy, which contributes to deeper learning and spiritual growth. This episode highlights how recognizing and appreciating small victories can lead to…
In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, hosts Mark Gainey and Andy Frazier discuss the common temptation church leaders face in finding their identity in their ministry successes and failures. They highlight the dangers of measuring worth and success through worldly metrics like attendance, buildings, and budgets, and urge leaders to root their identity in their relationship with Jesus…