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Church Leadership Podcast

Hosts Andy Frazier and Mark Gainey have authentic conversations to equip and encourage you as you lead the local church.

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Season 8: Episode 169 - Chris Crain on Navigating Church Conflict & Staying on Mission

In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Mark and Andy are joined by Dr. Chris Crain, Executive Director of the Birmingham Metro Baptist Association, for a conversation about conflict in the church—especially during high-stress seasons like Christmas (recorded just before Christmas 2025). Chris explains common times when conflict is more likely to surface, including busy church-calendar…

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Season 8: Episode 168 - Slowing Down: The Importance of Pace

In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, hosts Mark and Andy discuss the importance of slowing down in ministry. They emphasize the need for church leaders to reduce their hurried pace to foster deeper relationships and better spiritual health. Andy & Mark share personal experiences, discuss the challenge of balancing tasks, and reflect on how Jesus' unhurried life serves as a model. The…

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Season 8: Episode 167 - Robert Mullins on Encouraging & Equipping Pastors

In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Mark and Andy welcome their good friend Dr. Robert Mullins. Robert, who serves as the Executive Director for the Madison Baptist Association, discusses his journey from local church pastor to leading an association of pastors. The conversation delves into the importance of intentionality, community, and disciple-making within pastoral leadership.…

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Season 7: Episode 166 - Jay Gordon on Where God is Working & Small Group Lessons

In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, hosts Mark Gainey and Andy Frazier welcome Jay Gordon, the Small Groups Pastor at Brook Hills. Jay shares invaluable insights on where he has seen God at work, and offers practical advice on fostering meaningful relationships and discipleship within small groups. Listen in as Jay discusses the challenges and shifts in small group dynamics…

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Season 7: Ep 165 - Utilizing Volunteer Staff in Your Church

In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, Andy & Mark discuss the unique concept of developing and enlisting volunteer staff members within the church. They explore how to empower volunteers to assume key leadership roles without financial compensation. The discussion includes practical tips for identifying, recruiting, and developing these volunteers, while maintaining a healthy balance…

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Season 7: Ep 164 - Finding Joy in Small Wins

In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, hosts Mark Gainey and Andy Frazier discuss the importance of finding joy in ministry, regardless of the size or context of your church. They emphasize celebrating small wins and creating a culture of joy, which contributes to deeper learning and spiritual growth. This episode highlights how recognizing and appreciating small victories can lead to…

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Season 7: Ep 163 - Finding Your True Identity in Ministry: Battling Temptations and Misconceptions

In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, hosts Mark Gainey and Andy Frazier discuss the common temptation church leaders face in finding their identity in their ministry successes and failures. They highlight the dangers of measuring worth and success through worldly metrics like attendance, buildings, and budgets, and urge leaders to root their identity in their relationship with Jesus…

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Season 6: Ep 162 – Andy & Mark on Leaning Into Relationships

On this episode Mark and Andy discuss the importance of relationships in ministry, highlighting the need for intentional and vulnerable…

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Season 6: Ep 161 – Mark & Andy Discuss Soul Care

In this episode, Mark and Andy discuss the importance of soul care in ministry, emphasizing that it’s not just about…

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Season 6: Ep 160 – Mark & Andy on Leading Church Staff Meetings

Hello again, CLP Family! Mark and Andy are excited to share with you a few helpful tips and tricks on…

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