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Chat & Bother · Apr 25, 2026

We Thought That Was Normal

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Eva Wilson · Chat & Bother

What do childhood habits, 80s TV, getting in trouble, and leadership have in common? More than you think.

In this Chat and Bother super episode, we bring together some of our favorite conversations exploring culture, nostalgia, and the lessons that shaped us. From the things we grew up thinking were “normal,” to the shows that taught us right from wrong, to the moments that got us in trouble—we’re reflecting on how those experiences still show up in our lives today.

We also sit down with a special guest author to talk about leadership and how its roots are deeply connected to the traditions of the Black church.

If you’ve ever looked back on your childhood and thought, “Wait…did everybody grow up like this?” — this episode is for you.

  • The everyday habits and cultural norms we thought everyone shared

  • Lessons learned from 80s TV, including Schoolhouse Rock! and “very special episodes”

  • The most trouble we got into as kids—and what it taught us

  • A conversation on leadership, faith, and the influence of the Black church with L. Michelle Smith

This episode blends humor, honesty, and reflection—connecting childhood experiences to adult perspective in a way that’s relatable, thoughtful, and real.

What’s something you grew up thinking was normal—but later realized wasn’t?

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