This past week I held a short “developer retreat” (an unstructured gathering) where our (all two of us) goal was to experiment with Python’s upcoming “subinterpreters” feature. At Pycon I spent two sprint days working on this with Eric Snow, the engineer behind the proposals.
We started Sunday evening and immediately discovered that subinterpreters are a controversial topic. One maintainer of the NumPy library estimated it would take a year for NumPy to be rewritten to accommodate subinterpreters (an effort he did not welcome).
The per-interpreter GIL is still shown as being in 3.12, in PEP 684, where its status is “accepted.” But I don't see 684 in either the "what's new" of Python 3.12 or 3.13.
The companion is PEP 554, which is what I was working with at Pycon. This is the module that provides an easy-access API to subinterpreters. I thought this was supposed to be in Python 3.12, but the PEP has a status of “draft,” and is slotted for Python 3.13, but again, I see no mention of it in the “what’s new” for 3.13.
A May 24 article in InfoWorld says: “However, version 3.12 only includes the CPython internals to make this possible. There's still no end-user interface to subinterpreters. A standard library module, interpreters, is intended to do this, but it's now slated to appear in Python 3.13.” I note the phrase “now slated,” but I was unable to discover any discussions about this decision (either I wasn’t searching in the right place—very likely—or it wasn’t a public discussion).
We decided instead to explore the Trio library and to learn more about Rust.
Comments
Nothing yet. Say the first thing.
Sign in to join the conversation.