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Recently, Marymount--a small Catholic university in Arlington, Virginia--has been in the news for a draconian plan to eliminate a number of majors, ostensibly to better meet student demand. I recently learned the university leadership has been circulating one of my charts to justify the decision, so I thought I'd chime in on the context a bit. My understanding of the situation, primarily informed…

Recently, Marymount--a small Catholic university in Arlington, Virginia--has been in the news for a draconian plan to eliminate a number of majors, ostensibly to better meet student demand. I recently learned the university leadership has been circulating one of my charts to justify the decision, so I thought I'd chime in on the context a bit. My understanding of the situation, primarily informed by the coverage in [ARLNow](https://www.arlnow.com/tag/marymount-university/), is this seems like bad plan,[^1] so I thought I'd take a quick look at the university's situation. Not knowing much about Marymount, I thought I'd first check how low the major numbers actually are. Here's the list of all the majors that Marymount reported to [IPEDS](https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/) from 2017-2021. Majors proposed for removal are in blue. The largest group are Nursing majors; the next largest are general business, a category that has stagnated. The two largest majors in what used to be called the "Liberal Arts" are psychology and biology; arrows show change from the 2005-2015 period to the 2017-2021 period. A few things jump out at me here. 1. The proposed cut majors are doing perfectly well. The annual numbers in history have declined only about 15%; that's significantly better than most history programs. The sociology program, slated for removal, has actually grown. 2. If you want to cut a major at Marymount, you should cut Liberal Arts and Sciences/Liberal Studies. It has declined greatly, it provides no benefit over any specific course of study, and it's where a number of the students that would have majored in the majors slated for removal are likely to go. This does them no good; general liberal arts degrees tend to be a characteristic of community colleges looking to set students up to complete a major inside of two years if they move to a four-year institution, but for a four-year degree they're just dead weight. ::: ![Majors at Marymount](20230304104400.png) {.caption} ::: Majors at Marymount ::: ::: The first point is especially important--there doesn't seem to be anything particularly low about these numbers. Universities routinely offer majors that graduate fewer than 10 students a year. Marymount itself has several other ones. Let's compare to some peers. Marymount offered 3,223 degrees from 2016-2021. Let's make a group of other schools that are private, offer MAs but not many PhDs (that is, are Carnegie class Masters 1 and Masters 2), and granted between 3000 and 3500 degrees over the same period.[^2] Looking at this, it's clear that Marymount's major numbers are not in any way remarkable; making cuts of these majors in the context of national trends is a wildly speculative gamble on the university's character that other comparable places aren't doing. I don't know the specific finances, but from a positioning standpoint, Marymount is making a peculiar choice. The school in this bucket with the weakest humanities programs is the evangelical Oral Roberts University; for a Catholic school to aspire to supplant them is uninspiring, to say the least. {#majors-since-2016-at-marymount-and-similar-schools} ## Majors since 2016 at Marymount and similar schools ::: ![Math, Religion, English, and History degrees.](20230304113436.png) {.caption} ::: Math, Religion, English, and History degrees. ::: ::: ::: ![Sociology, Philosophy, and Fine/Studio arts degrees.](20230304113502.png) {.caption} ::: Sociology, Philosophy, and Fine/Studio arts degrees. ::: ::: [^1]: From a PR perspective, among other things--if I had heard of Marymount before this, I forgot; but now it's widely known for advertising that it's in financial peril by executing a plan that is unlikely to save it any significant amount of money, which is not a great way to attract talented students or retain talented employees. Bryan Alexander, the 'futurist' who apparently showed my Twitter chart to some set of Catholic universities, uses the phrase ["Queen Sacrifice"](https://bryanalexander.org/higher-education/another-queen-sacrifice-might-be-in-the-works-this-time-in-virginia/) to describe cutting a department to save a university; what Marymount's doing, cutting the majors while retaining the departments, seems to be just folly. [^2]: All the data and charts for this post, including national degree numbers, are in an Observable Notebook [here](https://observablehq.com/@bmschmidt/marymount-degrees).

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