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Dr. Andrew Wakefield on President Trump's Executive Order

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On the MMR: 'I’ve done this research, and the safety studies aren’t there'

Dr. Wakefield on the MMR:

I thought, well, is it possible? You put three live viruses in the same vial and you inject them in a way the human immune system has never seen them before . . .

This has never happened in the history of mankind. Is that going to illicit some very different response?

Andy Wakefield discusses President's Executive Order

On August 10,th President Trump signed an executive order reducing the recommended childhood vaccine schedule and calling for the MMR vaccine to be separated into three shots.

The EO also launched the Autism Data Science Imitative granting 13 research awards that would examine autism prevalence, causes, treatments, and services. Five of these would look at vaccines as causal.

During the press conference, HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr. said, “We will examine every biologically plausible hypothesis and leave no legitimate scientific question unexplored.”

As expected, Dr. Paul Offit, co-inventor of the rotavirus vaccine, RotaTeq, made the rounds of the news outlets.

Offit on CNN

August 11th, CNN Fact-checking Pres. Trump’s Vaccine Claims

Here Offit slammed Trump and Kennedy’s actions, referring to them as “anti-vaccine activists.”

Furthermore, Offit was totally unconcerned about autism, saying that we know what causes autism.

(@3:55)

There are many known causes of autism. It’s at least genetic. 80 percent of autism is genetic based on twin studies, paternal or identical twins and cousins studies.

Offit went on to link autism to certain drugs taken during pregnancy—but not Tylenol—infections during pregnancy, older fathers and intestinal bacteria.

So there are a lot of interesting leads in autism. Vaccines isn’t one of those leads. This is the best studied environmental factor, and it’s not vaccines.

Offit dismissed that idea of an epidemic of autism. Instead, he attributed all the autism among our children to a broader definition and greater awareness.

That’s why there’s an increase. It has nothing to do with the fact that children are getting more vaccines.

Offit was totally opposed to breaking up the MMR into separate vaccines.

When she introduced Dr. Offit, CNN’s Pamela Brown said, “I also want to note that Dr. Offit is the co-inventor of the rotavirus vaccine, recommended for infants by the CDC. And he’s also a former member of the FDA Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee.”

(It is rare for a news outlet to mention Offit’s personal ties to the vaccine makers, but it should raise concerns for viewers. He’s not an independent source.)

News outlets covering this had no interest in reporting on the autism crisis. Instead almost all the coverage was about changing the schedule and splitting up the MMR vaccine.

Actually, the safety of the MMR vaccine has long been the heated center of the vaccine-autism debate.

For parents with autistic children who follow the news, all of this takes us back to Dr. Andrew Wakefield, the British gastroenterologist who in 1998 wrote about a connection he was seeing in autistic children with GI problems that developed following MMR vaccination. For merely asking questions, Wakefield lost his medical license and was labeled as a dangerous fraud by the media here in the US and abroad.

The controversy never goes away

Despite the vilification of Dr. Wakefield, questions about the safety of the MMR are still alive and well and gaining more ground.

VIDEO: Andy Wakefield discusses President’s Executive Order 24:28

On August 11th, the day after Trump’s announcement, autism activist Wayne Rohde talked with Dr. Wakefield about the news.

Wayne asked Andy about what Paul Offit said on CNBC defending the use of the MMR vaccine.

Andy:

Paul Offit was speaking from a position of ignorance. . .

Andy retold the story of his involvement with the vaccine controversy.

Twenty-eight years ago, Wayne, I was presented with these children with autistic regression, gastrointestinal problems, and often following, according to the parents, measles, mumps, rubella vaccine.

We decided to look at this clinically, and as you know, the rest of that is history.

We discovered a novel bowel disease in these children, which was treatable and led to an improvement, an amelioration at least to some extent, of their autism as well as their gastrointestinal problems.

That was all terribly exciting, but the issue of the MMR vaccine clearly created a lot of heat.

I decided at that time—certain things struck me. One is that the upward inflection in the incidence of autism in the UK mapped very closely with the introduction of the measles, mumps, rubella vaccine in the UK.

Combining live viruses

I thought, well, is it possible? You put three live viruses in the same vial and you inject them in a way the human immune system has never seen them before?

Firstly, they’re injected. Secondly, you’re receiving three viruses simultaneously.

This has never happened in the history of mankind. Is that going to illicit some very different response?

Andy compared the MMR to a doctor giving a patient three blood pressure drugs at the same time. “I’d kill them all.”

You don’t combine these things with impunity. You’ve got to be very, very careful, particularly when you’re dealing with live viruses.

Because of his concerns about the MMR, Andy went and researched the history of the vaccine. He read every paper published on the MMR.

The safety studies were not there.

Andy wrote a 250 page report on the studies what were out there. He noticed one thing about combining these three viruses.

When they put them together in a laboratory setting, they found that there was interference between the viruses. That there was, in particular, interference of the measles virus on the mumps’ immune response in patients.

So something was happening. It wasn’t that one and one and one equals three.

When Andy published his paper in 1998, he told his colleagues:

I’ve done this research, and the safety studies aren’t there. And until they have been done, then I would recommend reverting to the single vaccine.

Now at that time they were available. They were available in the UK and the US, the single, monovalent measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. Parents had the choice.

When Andy went before the media and made that recommendation, the attacks started.

Official cover-up

David Salisbury

Andy said that before the paper was published, he talked to Dr. David Salisbury, a pediatrician, who was in charge of the vaccine division at the Department of Health.

He told Salisbury that there weren’t studies on the safety of the MMR, and he asked him what he based his approval of the MMR on.

And his response was, ‘We had no reason to assume that the safety profile of the single vaccine would be any different to the MMR vaccine.’

IN OTHER WORDS, he made a presumption on behalf of millions and millions of children in perpetuity based on no science at all.

I was absolutely astonished, and I said to him, ‘I can’t believe you’re making this assumption when you are planning to give this to every child born in this country from this point forward.’

Salisbury previously had to withdraw an MMR vaccine from Japan that caused meningitis. He was aware there could be problems with the MMR.

This underscores the casual attitude heavily invested in the success of vaccine promotion at the expense of the people they’re giving the vaccines to.

Andy made his recommendation for single measles, mumps, rubella vaccines, and within six months, the UK banned the importation of the single vaccines. Likewise in the US, Merck withdrew the single shots.

Andy said that to make the MMR vaccine, manufacturers first have to make the single vaccines in order to combine them.

So Merck can do that tomorrow. So that’s not an issue.

Controversies and challenges of vaccination: an interview with Elizabeth Miller | BMC Medicine | Springer Nature Link

Andy also went to Elizabeth Miller, someone in a position like the head of the CDC in the US, and asked her why the single vaccines were no longer available.

She said, ‘If we allowed parents to make the choice, it would destroy our MMR program.’

Her concerns were for the protection of the program over the protection of the children.

Andy’s criticism of the MMR program cost him his medical license in the UK and made him the permanent scapegoat for those defending vaccines.

Andy was resolute:

The MMR had not been proven safe, whatever Paul Offit may say. He’s just spouting out safe and effective.

No, it is not.

The appropriate safety studies have not been done. And where some [studies] have been done in the laboratory setting, they’ve identified this phenomenon of viral interference, about which, in terms of safety, we haven’t got a clue what that means because the science wasn’t followed up.

So, I’m sorry, Dr. Offit, you’re completely wrong.

And when we come to the science that’s looked at this, that you keep telling us about, the key study that tested the correct hypothesis, that age of exposure is a major determinant of risk of autism following MMR, that study was fraudulently corrupted by the CDC—admitted to by the senior author of the study, William Thompson, and is the subject of the film, Vaxxed.

It did not get published because system did not want it to be published.

It was published, by the way, but it was published using completely corrupted data. It told the story that MMR vaccine is safe. It’s even worse than just outright fraud.

So millions of children were put at risk of serious, permanent neurological disease because people like Paul Offit believe, believe despite the evidence, that the vaccine had been proven safe when it hasn’t.

I’m really sorry, but it hasn’t, and the consequences, I believe personally, are staggering.

Things will change

Andy injected a note of hope that things are changing.

It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter what ACIP says. It doesn’t matter what any of these groups say.

This will change from the bottom up. What the public is seeing and what is causing an attrition of their confidence in public health policy makers and people like Paul Offit is the constant barrage of—as we talked about, Fauci last week, MMR this week.

The public health system has lied to the people, has deceived the people in its own interest, and through its own false beliefs. And so, it will change from the bottom up with the public saying, I do not want this for me or for my children.

And that’s the way the system will change.

Andy went on to say that the value of Trump’s executive order is that it keeps this issue in the public sphere.

Regarding public policy makers, Andy said this:

They are to blame. Let’s be absolutely clear about that. They are to blame because they have not done the studies appropriately, putting the interests of children first, above their own belief system.

Next Andy and Wayne talked about problems with the mumps component of the MMR.

Andy noted the emergence of resistant strains of the viruses in the MMR.

We’re seeing outbreaks of mumps and measles in highly vaccinated populations. That is an inevitability of evolutionary biology. It’s rather like the effect of antibiotics on bacteria in the generation of multi-resistant bacteria. That’s what we’re seeing now.

‘MY FEAR’

My fear is that they’re going to say, okay, we’ve got an alternative now, and that’s an mRNA-based measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine. That’s my fear. That could really pose a massive problem.

Andy again went back to President Trump’s executive order.

I think in the end, what we’ve got to do is be absolutely honest, and this is one of the great things I think emerged from what President Trump and Bobby have been saying about this is that parents have to be able to make the choice on behave of their children.

There should be no mandates. There should be no mandates whatsoever, particularly in the presence of such extraordinary ignorance about the true rate of side effects of these vaccines, which nonetheless, we see every single day.

I think it’s going to be a very interesting passage forward.

Andy stressed that he believes that Bobby Kennedy needs to be in his position at HHS beyond 2028, “to finish what he started.”

Andy speculated on what might happen.

What would happen if making these changes to the schedule, we saw a reduction or a plateauing in the extraordinarily fast rising rate of neurodevelopmental disorders in children? What if we saw that turn around because they’ve made these recommendations? That would be fascinating.

Wayne talked about the complete failure of officials to address the cause of autism.

Public health doesn’t care about them.

He recounted how one of his twin sons had a severe reaction to the MMR and yet his brother did not.

Wayne agreed that if we have five or six years of a reduced schedule and changes to the MMR, we would likely see a reduction in the number of affected kids.

You’re going to see a difference, and if that difference really does become significant, then the curtain has been pulled back, exposing the frauds that we know are already out there.

Andy expressed his fears about a change in administration after Trump.

If let’s say, the Democrats get back in and they change the health structure, and they change the policies in regard of vaccination from those of this administration, then we will see the pendulum swing back, not just to where it was, but even further. There will be even more rigorous demands upon parents to have their children vaccinated—almost to spite the current administration.

It will be decidedly worse if Bobby does not get another chance to reinforce what it is he’s doing. So we need to avoid that.

By the end of their talk, it was clear that proof of safety of the MMR vaccine is nonexistent. We simply have to take the word of high profile people like Paul Offit, an industry insider. We also have to accept that nothing is ever going to be done to address what autism is doing to children because the current health care system simply doesn’t care.

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19 years ago, I wrote a piece called, “The Really Big Lie About Autism,” which I’ve updated at least a dozen times since then. The really big lie about autism is the fact that no official will ever admit there actually is more autism among our children.

2007, when I wrote the piece, was the year the U.S. autism rate increased from one in 166 children, one in 102 boys to one in 150 children, one in 92 boys.

I cited Paul Offit, who was in the news over the rate increase, denying there was any.

On ABC’s 20/20 on February 23rd, Dr Paul Offit, explained that the increase in autism is due to the fact that “people that we once called quirky or geeky or nerdy are now called autistic.”

He further stated that with a label of autism, it would “allow that child then to qualify for services which otherwise they wouldn’t be qualified to get.”

Today, 19 years later, Offit is saying the same thing. Greater awareness and better diagnosing is still behind the current rate of one in every 31 children, one in 19 boys.

Experts like Offit trivialize autism. Mainstream medicine has no interest in what’s causing this nightmare.

And Andy Wakefield is right. Bobby Kennedy has to stay in his position until we finally face the truth about autism and stop the epidemic.

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