Cas Holman grew up playing make-believe in the woods and helping her mechanic step-dad fix cars and dune buggies. Always knowing that she didn’t check the stereotypical gender boxes, she never gave any of the other arbitrary “boxes” much credit either, instead preferring to focus on the outside-the-box possibilities that could be accessed through play, curiosity, and exploration. While getting her MFA, she began working on Geemo, a building toy, which kicked-off her life’s mission of designing for play. Since then, she’s established herself as a champion of open-ended play, designing notable play systems like Rigamajig. She’s worked with global business leaders to incorporate play into company culture, leading to more innovative outcomes, greater trust and safety, and improved resilience. With her upcoming book, Playful, she is on a campaign to help adults reconnect with play throughout their lives because she knows, and has the research and science to prove it, that with play we ALL become more creative, joyful, and productive. Ain’t that good news!
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What’s the best advice that you’ve ever gotten?
From Shoham Arad - “Show up and be awesome”
What’s your current favorite tool or material to work with?
Inky pens and scratchpaper. And I love whittling.
What book is on your nightstand?
Blackouts by Justin Torres
Favorite restaurant in your city?
My favorite restaurant in YOUR city (Providence, RI) is Oberlin! Love that place.
Fave in mine right now is Strange Delight. Both are creative with seafood.
Who do you look up to and why?
SO MANY PEOPLE! Recently i am very much appreciating Amanda Gates-Elston, my Studio Manager who has the most incredible drive for positivity I’ve ever encountered. And she’s a New Yorker! She’s a champion hunter of the silver-lining. Plus a goofball.
What are the last five songs you listened to?
A playlist my boo and I have been making since we met-
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